Actually I think Wade is better and here's why. 1. Wade is a better passer than Kobe2. Wade is a more efficient shooter than Kobe3. Wade is slightly better in steals, blocks, and rebounds. 4. The Heat team of last year was almost as good as the super talented Laker team of the year before. Kobe had the better team yet they both almost won the title.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 18 2006, 02:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Actually I think Wade is better and here's why. 1. Wade is a better passer than Kobe2. Wade is a more efficient shooter than Kobe3. Wade is slightly better in steals, blocks, and rebounds. 4. The Heat team of last year was almost as good as the super talented Laker team of the year before. Kobe had the better team yet they both almost won the title.</div> :HAHAHA:
homer. Watch some Heat games and see how consistent Wade is game in and game out before you announce Kobe is better.
Put the Wade of now on that super talented lakers team of 2000-2003 and the Lakers win championships. It was Shaq's decline that stopped the Lakers from winning championships.
Kobe is better than Wade. But, Wade is young and is only going to get better. And KMart how can you say Kobe has 3 rings? Wade hasn't been in the league long enough to have 3 ring so you can't really bring that into factor. When Wade is at Kobe's age I bet you Wade will have a couple of rings. As long as Shaq stays a couple more years he could easily get one. But, still Kobe is better but, Wade is better in ways like gettign to the rim, and uses the skills he has better than Kobe does. And to al lthe doubters that Wade isn't clutch. He IS clutch. Kobe is the clutchest in overall fourth quearter. It just depends on how you define it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wade3 @ Apr 17 2006, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe is better than Wade. But, Wade is young and is only going to get better. And KMart how can you say Kobe has 3 rings? Wade hasn't been in the league long enough to have 3 ring so you can't really bring that into factor. When Wade is at Kobe's age I bet you Wade will have a couple of rings. As long as Shaq stays a couple more years he could easily get one. But, still Kobe is better but, Wade is better in ways like gettign to the rim, and uses the skills he has better than Kobe does. And to al lthe doubters that Wade isn't clutch. He IS clutch. Kobe is the clutchest in overall fourth quearter. It just depends on how you define it.</div>Wade is 24, Kobe's 27. Dwyane better start winning fast for that statement to come true.
Kobe has been in the League for 10 years. Dwyane has been in it for 3. Dwyane has been on a playoff team each year. I dont think winning will be an issue for Wade so dont bring that up.
Kobe had Shaq in his prime along with cluch players like Fisher, Horry, and a defensive stopper in Fox. Wade didn't have that luxury.
It is actually fairly close, but Kobe is a more dyanamic scorer, better defender, and is more proven. Period. When both careers are over, then it will be more fair to compare.
Right now the Heat are poorly constructed around Wade and Shaq. Wade would have to overcome other players deficiencies to win it and I don't like their chances. Wade is the only clutch player on the Heat. Walker has his own agenda. Jason Williams has been a poor shooter until he came to the Heat and can't stay healthy. I don't agree about the part that Kobe is a better defender. That is pretty even I feel.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 17 2006, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Right now the Heat are poorly constructed around Wade and Shaq. Wade would have to overcome other players deficiencies to win it and I don't like their chances. Wade is the only clutch player on the Heat. Walker has his own agenda. Jason Williams has been a poor shooter until he came to the Heat and can't stay healthy. I don't agree about the part that Kobe is a better defender. That is pretty even I feel.</div>Not even at all. Just watch the tapes of Kobe destroying AI on D, stopping T-Mac, all those amazing blocks, and all defensive teams. Wade isn't a very good defender yet. I love Wade and can't stand people underrating him, but he is not a great defender.
I'm not a big fan of Wade at all but I also realize he is carrying that team to as good of a record as they are. I didn't say Wade was a good defender but when I was watching Kobe I saw him giving up a lot of open jumpers because he helps out off his defender a lot. Bowen is always going off and Kobe is the one guarding him. I believe Bowen outscored Kobe once in a playoff game and Kobe was the defender. lol. Kobe always had Rick Fox guard the primary scorer and he got the easier assignment. Kobe had trouble guarding anyone on the Pistons. He was exposed due to them playing 5 good players. Neither are good defenders and that is why I say even.
Kobe is a GREAT defender, I don't know what the hell you are talkiing about. he alwyas plays the other star on D. Bowen isn't a big threat, so he would help on other players, and Bowen would get those occasional corner 3's....but that's it. Kobe did a stellar job on AI in finals, always abuses T-Mac, and is just a superior defender. He has definately dropped off, but is still very good.
He dropped off because Fox isn't there to take the better defender like at one point. Kobe is not a good defender. He has a lot of slip ups. He tends to get over aggresive on defense and teams get by him or he fouls. Not a good defender. I think people hear from laker fans so much that they figure he is a good defender but I've seen him get owned by Wade before so in the couple times he did well against Mcgrady doesn't make him a good defender.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 19 2006, 07:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He dropped off because Fox isn't there to take the better defender like at one point. Kobe is not a good defender. He has a lot of slip ups. He tends to get over aggresive on defense and teams get by him or he fouls. Not a good defender. I think people hear from laker fans so much that they figure he is a good defender but I've seen him get owned by Wade before so in the couple times he did well against Mcgrady doesn't make him a good defender.</div>Kobe has owned Ray allen, VC, tmac, Arenas, Ai, Michael redd and his not a good defender? He's dropped off but he was definently a good defender back in the day.Instead of listening to us go watch and see if were lying or not.
I have already watched a lot of his games and was not impressed. It's his fault for not playing defense in important playoff games. Letting Bowen outscore him is just one example of Kobe's drifting off on defense. You know you don't leave Bowen open for 3's. Also in the Detroit series Kobe couldn't guard anyone. Billups even started smiling when he saw Kobe on him knowing he could take him off the dribble.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Mar 26 2006, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wade has better shot selection and he is better at hacking defenses apart and getting inside. That's why they call him flash.Those were the only 2 things that I could see in this argument for Wade. Stupid topic.</div>That's not why the call him Flash wth? They call him Flash because Shaq wanted him to be Flash as a sidekick as Shaq is Superman. Anyways Kobe is a much better scorer. Much better jumpshot and can create plays much better by himself. kobe has a better offensive mind too, and has a bigger and stronger will to win. Also, Kobe is stronger physically which gives him an advantage. Kobe is also the better defender, has always been known has the better defender and one of the top 5 perimeter defenders in the league for the past 5 years. Also I notice Kobe gets his shots so much easier than Dwyane. Dwyane Wade still has to prove himself, he's only been in the league for 3 years, and Kobe's been in the NBA for 10 years, the playoffs 9 years, the finals 4 years, and has 3 championship rings to prove everything. So my choice, which isnt biased because I am a Lakers fan, is surely Kobe Bryant.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AirBlaze @ Apr 18 2006, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's not why the call him Flash wth? They call him Flash because Shaq wanted him to be Flash as a sidekick as Shaq is Superman. Anyways Kobe is a much better scorer. Much better jumpshot and can create plays much better by himself. kobe has a better offensive mind too, and has a bigger and stronger will to win. Also, Kobe is stronger physically which gives him an advantage. Kobe is also the better defender, has always been known has the better defender and one of the top 5 perimeter defenders in the league for the past 5 years. Also I notice Kobe gets his shots so much easier than Dwyane. Dwyane Wade still has to prove himself, he's only been in the league for 3 years, and Kobe's been in the NBA for 10 years, the playoffs 9 years, the finals 4 years, and has 3 championship rings to prove everything. So my choice, which isnt biased because I am a Lakers fan, is surely Kobe Bryant.</div>Wade is stronger, and while Kobe get shis shots easier and more ways to score, Wade is far more efficient than Kobe. other than those things, i agree 100%.
Damn so many annoying Kobe fans here. Kobe has proved which is not part of the discussion since the MVP is about this year. Better Scorer: KobeBetter Slasher: WadeBetter Shot selection: WadeBetter outside Shooter: KobeBetter defender: EvenBetter rebound: WadeBetter Passer: WadeBetter shot blocker: WadeBetter at steals: WadeBetter free throw shooter: Kobe. That's how I see it.
