<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AirBlaze @ Mar 31 2006, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Terrorizing us? Muslims haven't done <Censored>. Besides 9/11 that's bout it, America is the one terrorizing the crap out of the Iraqis in Iraq.</div>This is completely false. The terrorist organizations from the middle east, in specific Al-Queda have been the cause of many bombings on American targets. U.S. Embassies in Africa were bombed before 9/11, bombs were placed in the twin towers in 92 in an attempt to to blow them up, two American submarines off the coast of Bahrain or however it was spelt was attacked and destroyed before 9/11. 9/11 was the final straw, as thousands of innocent civilians died, because these Middle eastern terrorist organizations didn't like us. Since going into Iraq and Afghanistan no innocent american civilians in the states have been attacked though. Part of why the U.S. military is there, is because as long as these terrorists can fight with Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan, they won't come to America and try to kill the innocent people in America.
I didn't really read through this thread, but my friend gave me the link to this video today, and I found it very, very interesting.Runtime is 1 hour and 21 minutes long, and it's giving arguments and evidence into the producer's belief that 9/11 was indeed staged.Here is the link: http://anonym.to/?http://video.google.com/...&q=loose+changeNow, before everybody starts jumping on me for this... in no way am I saying I agree or disagree with the things said in the video. I just found it very, very interesting, and it is probably the best one I've seen.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Apr 1 2006, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is completely false. The terrorist organizations from the middle east, in specific Al-Queda have been the cause of many bombings on American targets. U.S. Embassies in Africa were bombed before 9/11, bombs were placed in the twin towers in 92 in an attempt to to blow them up, two American submarines off the coast of Bahrain or however it was spelt was attacked and destroyed before 9/11. 9/11 was the final straw, as thousands of innocent civilians died, because these Middle eastern terrorist organizations didn't like us. Since going into Iraq and Afghanistan no innocent american civilians in the states have been attacked though. Part of why the U.S. military is there, is because as long as these terrorists can fight with Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan, they won't come to America and try to kill the innocent people in America.</div> That's completly false. Al-Qaeda has cells everywhere and have attacked London and various other places while we have been in Iraq. The people fighting us in Iraq are a majority low level fighters, the terrorists that wait here and that attacked us on 9/11 are the upper level members who are trusted and much more educated then the terrorists getting killed in Iraq. Major Al-Qaeda attacks take many years to be planned, 9/11 took 5 years, these people are patient and you have to think something is currently in the works here right now. Why do you think we have caught Al-Qaeda cells here? They ARE HERE.
They are here, which is why I don't understand why people don't like the Patriot Act. As long as they use their powers accordingly, it seems like a great idea.I like the War in Iraq, whether they had WMDs or not (which is debatable), and think that this is only the beginning of our new foreign policy plan. After 9/11, I really don't feel like take crap from anyone. Al-Queda is worldwide, but they have plently of recruitment and training camps in the Middle East. We have shut down many terrorists cells and camps since 9/11 in the Middle East. To me, that is being successful.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Apr 1 2006, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's completly false. Al-Qaeda has cells everywhere and have attacked London and various other places while we have been in Iraq. The people fighting us in Iraq are a majority low level fighters, the terrorists that wait here and that attacked us on 9/11 are the upper level members who are trusted and much more educated then the terrorists getting killed in Iraq. Major Al-Qaeda attacks take many years to be planned, 9/11 took 5 years, these people are patient and you have to think something is currently in the works here right now. Why do you think we have caught Al-Qaeda cells here? They ARE HERE.</div>If you would read carefully, i said that there have been no American civilian targets attacked since we went into Iraq. I said nothing about British targets, and to be honost I could care less if London gets attacked, but no American civilian targets have been hit since then.
What's the difference? It proves they can attack and have people in place when a country is involved in the Iraq war. Just because they havn't attacked us since makes no difference.
You said it was completely false, when i said that there has not been an attack on American civilian targets since we went into Iraq and Afghanistan. Then you proceeded to say that London had been terrorist attacked, which is not part of the U.S. last time i checked. That's the difference. America has been getting to these terrorist cells in the U.S. before they can attack any other American civilian targets. The FBI is tracking those terrorists cells, and getting to them. The terrorists in the middle east are staying in the middle east, because there is American military to fight with there. The fact is that this country is safer now than it was before 9/11, even with us in Iraq right now. People don't like the patriot act, and the eavesdropping Bush has allowed to happen, but it is helping the U.S. battle terrorism by finding the terrorists in the states.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Apr 2 2006, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You said it was completely false, when i said that there has not been an attack on American civilian targets since we went into Iraq and Afghanistan. Then you proceeded to say that London had been terrorist attacked, which is not part of the U.S. last time i checked. That's the difference. America has been getting to these terrorist cells in the U.S. before they can attack any other American civilian targets. The FBI is tracking those terrorists cells, and getting to them. The terrorists in the middle east are staying in the middle east, because there is American military to fight with there. The fact is that this country is safer now than it was before 9/11, even with us in Iraq right now. People don't like the patriot act, and the eavesdropping Bush has allowed to happen, but it is helping the U.S. battle terrorism by finding the terrorists in the states.</div> I meant the entire post you wrote was false. Yes their have been no attacks in America since 9/11 and Iraq but that means nothing. We went from 1992 - 2001 without anything happening. Saying because of Iraq terrorists won't come here to kill Americans is completly wrong. London and Madrid are examples of things that can easily happen here. Great Britan is in Iraq and Al-Qaeda had terrorist attacks there which proves what you said wrong. They can be attacking us in Iraq and attacking the west as well.
Alrite, so if terrorists who call themselves "Muslims" are Islamic extremists, why can't people call Bush a Christian terrorist or Arial Sharon a Jewish terrorist?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Apr 2 2006, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I meant the entire post you wrote was false. Yes their have been no attacks in America since 9/11 and Iraq but that means nothing. We went from 1992 - 2001 without anything happening. Saying because of Iraq terrorists won't come here to kill Americans is completly wrong. London and Madrid are examples of things that can easily happen here. Great Britan is in Iraq and Al-Qaeda had terrorist attacks there which proves what you said wrong. They can be attacking us in Iraq and attacking the west as well.</div>U.S. Embassies in some African country, in ethiopa was bombed. That was in 1998, and those were all U.S. diplomatic officials, and a bunch of civilian secretaries and stuff. After that, it wasn't U.S. civilian targets, but a submarine off of Yemen was terrorist attacked. Here is a link, so stuff since, and i was wrong it was 1993 apparently, has happened. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_U.S._embassy_bombings
It was the U.S.S. Cole Navy ship that was attacked in Yemen, two Al-Qaeda members in a small raft waved to the sailors as they came close and exploded themselves.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Apr 2 2006, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Because they are not reading from the bible when they use jigsaws to cut peoples heads off.</div>terrorists arent reading the crap they do from the quran either...
Terrorists: Want maxium civilian casualties.Bush/American government: Want limited civilian casualties.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr Wolf @ Apr 2 2006, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Terrorists: Want maxium civilian casualties.Bush/American government: Want limited civilian casualties.</div>
