How can this one bad situation be the butt of every joke with AI? This doesn't summarize his career, and he's not done playing... Oh well, guess we'll just see what happens next season.
LOL. That's great. Too bad Chauncey has been playing like a god. It makes it look even worse on AI's part.
I disagree. I actually think it sums his career up pretty nicely. He proved to everyone that he's always going to be a me-first player while he was in Detroit and that he's never going to win it all. He might not be a career loser, but he's certainly never been much of a winner, and that showed in Detroit.
really? this sums up iverson's career? i mean let's forget about him winning an mvp and carrying his team to the finals.
And then lets remember that they got smoked in 5 in those Finals, were very lucky to have not gotten swept. And then you can probably count on one hand the amount of times he's made it out of the first round outside of that. Face it. Iverson has never been anything but a career loser. He's never had success in the playoffs and his teams always get better when he leaves them. Iverson is one of the best scorers in recent memory, I'll give him that, but he's never been about the team. He's always been about himself, which is why he doesn't have a ring and why he'll never get a ring.
iverson's team was the only team to beat the lakers in a game in the playoffs that year. makes getting "smoked in 5" seem not nearly as bad when everyone else who played that laker team lost in 4(or 3). iverson absolutely isn't a career loser and it's stupid to act as if that's true.
The great part is, this could have been avoided had Iverson not thrown a shitfit about coming off the bench and taken himself out.
I would definitely consider it getting smoked. They were lucky to win game one of that series, seeing as how it had to go in to OT. And I guess you don't have to look at AI as a career loser. I guess making the playoffs in the constantly putrid Eastern Conference, and doing it usually as a lower seed, and I guess that's successful. Who cares if he wins in the playoffs Oh, and as far as those '01 Finals go...the 76ers lost by 9, 5, 15, and 12 points in games 2 through 5. So, aside from game 3 (and obviously game 1)...it wasn't the most competitive Finals that I've ever seen.
like i said, his putrid eastern conference team beat the lakers in a game that year in the playoffs. no other team did that.
And that's an accomplishment? That's pathetic when that's the biggest "team" accomplishment you have on your resume'. Maybe if they'd have stretched the series to 6 or 7 games, I wouldn't hate on him so much, but they won a game and than lost 4 in a row. They might as well just saved themselves time and lost game 1 if they were going to get swept the next 4. I just don't see how winning one game in the Finals helps cement your argument.
getting to the finals would be his biggest team accomplishment. winning mvp would be the biggest individual accomplishment. and trying to judge iverson's career on what he's doing now is just stupid. he's past his prime. do you remember jordan for his days with the wizards or with the bulls?
MJ actually damn near led a sub-par and incredibly young Wizards team to the playoffs and also scored 20some PPG when he was 39. And I'm not judging Iverson on what he's doing now, I am judging his whole career. He has never, aside from his one run at the Finals, led a team anywhere. Who cares that he made the playoffs, he didn't win. The point is to win. He can win all the MVPs and all the scoring titles he wants, but the fact of the matter is that those individual accomplishments have never led to team success. You can try and argue that all you want, but I don't see how you can when almost all the evidence shows otherwise.
5 people are on the court at a time for each team. one player can only do so much. relying so much on team success to rate players is stupid. you go only go as far as your teammates let you. no player can do everything on their own.
The bolded statement is something that AI has yet to realize and is the reason why he'll never win a title. If he understood this, the Pistons might not have been too bad this year when they acquired him.
