Not only will I agree to disagree, but I'll hope I'm wrong and you're right (unless we trade Webster this offseason, then I'll hope I'm right).
"We never even gave him a shot." He never tried to get a shot. He coasted his entire time with the Blazers. He didn't work hard, he didn't play hard, he didn't try to fit in, he didn't try to learn the offense. Portland was a layover for him, nothing more. As far as I'm concerned, he can sit in the milk.
Everyone knew about his talent but he always had that cocky "Me First" type of attitude that coaches obviously didn't agree with, he was a pretty great scorer in college. I think some team originally tried turning him into a PG too
You're trying to suck me into a Von Wafer debate, because you evidently did not realize that I was using someone else's retarded reasoning against them to prove a point. But fuck it, I'll bite. I don't give a shit about sample sizes when its the fucking playoffs and the games matter. He's averaging double figures in four playoff games against a team that ranked 4th in the NBA in defense. That's really all I need to see in order to evaluate him as a keeper in this league.
But, the Blazers 2-guard defenders are Roy, and Fernandez. Roy doesn't have the energy to play great defense, and Fernandez isn't a good defender. Thus Von, Kobe, and other scoring two guards can light up the Blazers. The Jazz would have been a great match up for Portland. The Blazers would have swept them because they are built to beat the teams that are built to beat old school teams. Too bad old school teams beat a young Portland team. If they learn how to play defense with intensity, they would be scary.
Except that Wafer also averaged close to double figures in the regular season, so this isn't exactly a fluke performance.
But you just said playoff performance was the only thing that mattered, now you quote the regular season? Hrm..ok... Portland is a bad match up for Wafer (in the sense that we make him look stellar). I don't think other teams will have that issue. Oh and, btw, in order to make the playoffs you have to actually play well during the season, sooo..I guess regular season games do matter.
Where the hell did I say that playoff performance is the only thing that matters? Playoff performance is the most important thing. I mentioned the regular season to refute the notion that Wafer was on a fluke streak.
"Where the hell did I say that playoff performance is the only thing that matters?" "That's really all I need to see"... Ok?
We're not that good of a defensive team, we played at the slowest pace in the league, that is why our PPG allowed was low.
I really didnt give a shit about the Von Wafer debate.. I was referring more to you running your mouth about a player being a ball hog.. yet you havent seen much more than a few playoff games. It was in reference to Outlaw.
i think most of you guys are just pissed (like I am) that Von Wafer is lighting up our guards; when last year he rode our pine. You can say "he didn't try, this and that about his desire" but the point still stands that he's decimating us when he touches the ball. Who cares that he doesn't pass, does Trout? No, they are in the game to score. Whose scoring more now? Trout or Von?
There's a lot of truth in that. Added to that is the fact that we've invested a draft pick and years and years of roster space and coaching and money to get Outlaw to the point where he is today. The Rockets just wrote a check at the beginning of the season. This is the series where we'd hopefully see all that investment in Outlaw finally start to come to fruition. And he's looking like the second coming of Uncle Cliffy.
Hard for me to hate Von Wafer, becuase I know sooner or later he'll shoot his team out of an important game. Hasn't happened yet, but it will, mark my words....
