TMac is only 26, Yao is only 25That is our core (what we are building our team around)And that is youngAND YES- IT IS ONE OF THE BEST.You can't seriously think I meant Luther Head over TMac.
Sorry but I wouldn't call TMac a young player. He is a vet. He still might be young but this is his 9th year.
Young doesn't necessarily mean you are new to the NBAYoung means that you are young in ageTMac is 26- he is yet to reach his prime, and has at least 8-10 good years left in him. That is young.
I like Atlanta's core. Josh Smith, Josh Childress, Marvin Williams, Salim Stoudamire, and then you have JJ and Al Harrington. Even though they do not have a young PF/C stud they still have a lot of potential there.
I personally like Boston's core the best, but Orlando is second. Delonte West is a great starter right now, and Al Jefferson is going to be something special. This team will be a top five team in 3 years.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Mar 31 2006, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They have Luther head and Yao Ming. TWO PLAYERS! That is definately not the best young cores.</div>haha, the Raps have TWO PLAYERS too!anyways, on topic, i think the Bulls' core is the best NOW, but theplayers they have are already mature in their games, Ben Gordon is really the only one that hasn't reached close to his ceiling. They also don't have a leader or enough offense.As for the Celtics, they have a future at every position, and two players with superstar potential. I'll break down the positions:PG:<u>Delonte West</u>- One of the smartest players on the team already. His decision-making and maturity is very impressive, and he also has a nice skillset. He can drive very well with his quickness and ball-handling, and he can definitely shot from long range. He's basically a rookie PG (He sat out most of last year) shooting over 50%. Strengths:Shooting, decision making, defense, HEART.Weaknesses:undersized (but he still gets over 4 rpg), not a "true PG" (but really, who is?)<u>Orien Greene</u>-He could turn out to be a good role player. He is an excellent defender, and at times he can handle the ball and pass it very well. He sometimes gets too out of control, and he can't handle pressure very well. He has no range on his shot, but he takes it to the hole effectively.Strengths:Defense, passing (at times), athleticism.Weknesses:Shooting, scoring, inconsistency, composure.SG:<u>Tony Allen</u>-Has really come back to form as of late. He temporarily lost his explosiveness after the knee surgery, but now he's almost back to 100%. By far the best Celtic defender; when he focuses, he can be among the best defenders in the league, despite his size. He has really improved the range on his shot, even making some 3's here and there (i think he's shooting 47% from 3-point range). He drives effectively and gets to the line.Strengths:Defense, explosiveness, energy, offense (at times).Weaknesses:ballhandling, court vision, composure.SF:<u>Gerald Green</u>-One of the two players on the Celtics with star potential. I'm really not a fan of valuing a player based on their potential, but there's not alot else to analyze with him. He is a freak athlete, and he has size too. He can stroke it, especially from the midrange, which is very important. He plays with eagerness, but i'm not sure it will continue like this once he gets an assured spot in the rotation. His one-on-one defense is actually decent, but he is slow on his rotations, and he's still unfamiliar with the whole scheme of things. Sometimes forces things, but it's bc he's used to scoring 33 ppg, and now he doesn't get as many looks. Plus, he feels like he has to be effective (i.e. scoring) to stay in the game.Strengths:Athleticism, size, scoring, shooting.Weaknesses:still raw, decision making, defense.PF:<u>Al Jefferson</u>-The other Celtic with star potential, only this isn't based on hype; it's based on what ee've seen him do in games. Last year in the playoffs was when he really emerged as a threat, demanding double-teams while being guarded by Jermaine O'Neal (known as a very good post defender). He has an amazing repitoire of moves he can use, and he uses the shotfake very effectively. He has a soft touch around the basket, almost anything drops. He shot 60% for much of the year. He is also strong and is very good and getting and maintaining position. He still can't handle double-teams very well, as he still tries to score when he receives them. He has been much better lately with that. He still bites for any shotfake thrown at him.Strengths:Low-post threat, scoring, rebounding, good hands, HEART.Weaknesses:Defense, passing, composure.<u>Ryan Gomes</u>-This kid just knows how to play the game of basketball. He's undersized, not very athletic, and not too strong, but he gets the job done. He's almost been averaging a double-double since he began starting. He finds seems and opening that young players just aren't supposed to find. He has a beautiful midrange shot, which he uses effectively within the game. He was born to be a great role player; he feeds off of the stars on his team. He hustles all the time, and almost never does something wrong (decision-wise). He has good hands. He moves his feet on defense and blocks out.Strengths:Rebounding, decision making, dirty work, HEART.Weaknesses:size, athleticism.C:<u>kendrick Perkins</u>-I could go on for ages about this guy, but i'll save us some time. He is the epitomy of a hard worker finally finding some success in the nba. He is not very talented, but his hardwork and defense keep on earning him minutes. He is by far our best shotblocker/post defender, and he is gaining more respect from the referees game by game. He is an absolute BEAST on the boards, he'll chase down anything. Once he gets rebounds, he gets the ball up the floor quickly. Easily our best outlet passer. I absolutely LOVE Perk. And by the way CB4, do NOT comment on this. you know nothing about him.Strengths:Defense, rebounding, shotblocking, passing, HEART.Weaknesses:Scoring, offense.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ilovebball @ Mar 31 2006, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Young doesn't necessarily mean you are new to the NBAYoung means that you are young in ageTMac is 26- he is yet to reach his prime, and has at least 8-10 good years left in him. That is young.</div>T-Mac is past his prime.
I think by far the best young core in the nba is non other than the Atlanta Hawks!Atlanta- Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams,Josh Childress, Salim Stoudamire
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Mar 31 2006, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>haha, the Raps have TWO PLAYERS too!anyways, on topic, i think the Bulls' core is the best NOW, but theplayers they have are already mature in their games, Ben Gordon is really the only one that hasn't reached close to his ceiling. They also don't have a leader or enough offense.As for the Celtics, they have a future at every position, and two players with superstar potential. I'll break down the positions:PG:<u>Delonte West</u>- One of the smartest players on the team already. His decision-making and maturity is very impressive, and he also has a nice skillset. He can drive very well with his quickness and ball-handling, and he can definitely shot from long range. He's basically a rookie PG (He sat out most of last year) shooting over 50%. Strengths:Shooting, decision making, defense, HEART.Weaknesses:undersized (but he still gets over 4 rpg), not a "true PG" (but really, who is?)<u>Orien Greene</u>-He could turn out to be a good role player. He is an excellent defender, and at times he can handle the ball and pass it very well. He sometimes gets too out of control, and he can't handle pressure very well. He has no range on his shot, but he takes it to the hole effectively.Strengths:Defense, passing (at times), athleticism.Weknesses:Shooting, scoring, inconsistency, composure.SG:<u>Tony Allen</u>-Has really come back to form as of late. He temporarily lost his explosiveness after the knee surgery, but now he's almost back to 100%. By far the best Celtic defender; when he focuses, he can be among the best defenders in the league, despite his size. He has really improved the range on his shot, even making some 3's here and there (i think he's shooting 47% from 3-point range). He drives effectively and gets to the line.Strengths:Defense, explosiveness, energy, offense (at times).Weaknesses:ballhandling, court vision, composure.SF:<u>Gerald Green</u>-One of the two players on the Celtics with star potential. I'm really not a fan of valuing a player based on their potential, but there's not alot else to analyze with him. He is a freak athlete, and he has size too. He can stroke it, especially from the midrange, which is very important. He plays with eagerness, but i'm not sure it will continue like this once he gets an assured spot in the rotation. His one-on-one defense is actually decent, but he is slow on his rotations, and he's still unfamiliar with the whole scheme of things. Sometimes forces things, but it's bc he's used to scoring 33 ppg, and now he doesn't get as many looks. Plus, he feels like he has to be effective (i.e. scoring) to stay in the game.Strengths:Athleticism, size, scoring, shooting.Weaknesses:still raw, decision making, defense.PF:<u>Al Jefferson</u>-The other Celtic with star potential, only this isn't based on hype; it's based on what ee've seen him do in games. Last year in the playoffs was when he really emerged as a threat, demanding double-teams while being guarded by Jermaine O'Neal (known as a very good post defender). He has an amazing repitoire of moves he can use, and he uses the shotfake very effectively. He has a soft touch around the basket, almost anything drops. He shot 60% for much of the year. He is also strong and is very good and getting and maintaining position. He still can't handle double-teams very well, as he still tries to score when he receives them. He has been much better lately with that. He still bites for any shotfake thrown at him.Strengths:Low-post threat, scoring, rebounding, good hands, HEART.Weaknesses:Defense, passing, composure.<u>Ryan Gomes</u>-This kid just knows how to play the game of basketball. He's undersized, not very athletic, and not too strong, but he gets the job done. He's almost been averaging a double-double since he began starting. He finds seems and opening that young players just aren't supposed to find. He has a beautiful midrange shot, which he uses effectively within the game. He was born to be a great role player; he feeds off of the stars on his team. He hustles all the time, and almost never does something wrong (decision-wise). He has good hands. He moves his feet on defense and blocks out.Strengths:Rebounding, decision making, dirty work, HEART.Weaknesses:size, athleticism.C:<u>kendrick Perkins</u>-I could go on for ages about this guy, but i'll save us some time. He is the epitomy of a hard worker finally finding some success in the nba. He is not very talented, but his hardwork and defense keep on earning him minutes. He is by far our best shotblocker/post defender, and he is gaining more respect from the referees game by game. He is an absolute BEAST on the boards, he'll chase down anything. Once he gets rebounds, he gets the ball up the floor quickly. Easily our best outlet passer. I absolutely LOVE Perk. And by the way CB4, do NOT comment on this. you know nothing about him.Strengths:Defense, rebounding, shotblocking, passing, HEART.Weaknesses:Scoring, offense.T-Mac is past his prime.</div>HES 26!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Mar 31 2006, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>haha, the Raps have TWO PLAYERS too!anyways, on topic, i think the Bulls' core is the best NOW, but theplayers they have are already mature in their games, Ben Gordon is really the only one that hasn't reached close to his ceiling. They also don't have a leader or enough offense.As for the Celtics, they have a future at every position, and two players with superstar potential. I'll break down the positions:PG:<u>Delonte West</u>- One of the smartest players on the team already. His decision-making and maturity is very impressive, and he also has a nice skillset. He can drive very well with his quickness and ball-handling, and he can definitely shot from long range. He's basically a rookie PG (He sat out most of last year) shooting over 50%. Strengths:Shooting, decision making, defense, HEART.Weaknesses:undersized (but he still gets over 4 rpg), not a "true PG" (but really, who is?)<u>Orien Greene</u>-He could turn out to be a good role player. He is an excellent defender, and at times he can handle the ball and pass it very well. He sometimes gets too out of control, and he can't handle pressure very well. He has no range on his shot, but he takes it to the hole effectively.Strengths:Defense, passing (at times), athleticism.Weknesses:Shooting, scoring, inconsistency, composure.SG:<u>Tony Allen</u>-Has really come back to form as of late. He temporarily lost his explosiveness after the knee surgery, but now he's almost back to 100%. By far the best Celtic defender; when he focuses, he can be among the best defenders in the league, despite his size. He has really improved the range on his shot, even making some 3's here and there (i think he's shooting 47% from 3-point range). He drives effectively and gets to the line.Strengths:Defense, explosiveness, energy, offense (at times).Weaknesses:ballhandling, court vision, composure.SF:<u>Gerald Green</u>-One of the two players on the Celtics with star potential. I'm really not a fan of valuing a player based on their potential, but there's not alot else to analyze with him. He is a freak athlete, and he has size too. He can stroke it, especially from the midrange, which is very important. He plays with eagerness, but i'm not sure it will continue like this once he gets an assured spot in the rotation. His one-on-one defense is actually decent, but he is slow on his rotations, and he's still unfamiliar with the whole scheme of things. Sometimes forces things, but it's bc he's used to scoring 33 ppg, and now he doesn't get as many looks. Plus, he feels like he has to be effective (i.e. scoring) to stay in the game.Strengths:Athleticism, size, scoring, shooting.Weaknesses:still raw, decision making, defense.PF:<u>Al Jefferson</u>-The other Celtic with star potential, only this isn't based on hype; it's based on what ee've seen him do in games. Last year in the playoffs was when he really emerged as a threat, demanding double-teams while being guarded by Jermaine O'Neal (known as a very good post defender). He has an amazing repitoire of moves he can use, and he uses the shotfake very effectively. He has a soft touch around the basket, almost anything drops. He shot 60% for much of the year. He is also strong and is very good and getting and maintaining position. He still can't handle double-teams very well, as he still tries to score when he receives them. He has been much better lately with that. He still bites for any shotfake thrown at him.Strengths:Low-post threat, scoring, rebounding, good hands, HEART.Weaknesses:Defense, passing, composure.<u>Ryan Gomes</u>-This kid just knows how to play the game of basketball. He's undersized, not very athletic, and not too strong, but he gets the job done. He's almost been averaging a double-double since he began starting. He finds seems and opening that young players just aren't supposed to find. He has a beautiful midrange shot, which he uses effectively within the game. He was born to be a great role player; he feeds off of the stars on his team. He hustles all the time, and almost never does something wrong (decision-wise). He has good hands. He moves his feet on defense and blocks out.Strengths:Rebounding, decision making, dirty work, HEART.Weaknesses:size, athleticism.C:<u>kendrick Perkins</u>-I could go on for ages about this guy, but i'll save us some time. He is the epitomy of a hard worker finally finding some success in the nba. He is not very talented, but his hardwork and defense keep on earning him minutes. He is by far our best shotblocker/post defender, and he is gaining more respect from the referees game by game. He is an absolute BEAST on the boards, he'll chase down anything. Once he gets rebounds, he gets the ball up the floor quickly. Easily our best outlet passer. I absolutely LOVE Perk. And by the way CB4, do NOT comment on this. you know nothing about him.Strengths:Defense, rebounding, shotblocking, passing, HEART.Weaknesses:Scoring, offense.T-Mac is past his prime.</div>No we have 4 players. About to be 6 after this draft. Come on, Dogma :thumbdn1:
i don't count Joey Graham and Calderon. Calderon has almost reached his ceiling and i really don't see much in Graham.
I would say the Magic have the best young core but the Celtics and Raptors also have great groups of rising stars.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Mar 31 2006, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, he's not going to average 30 ppg in a full season again..</div>I agree, Mcgrady probably won't average 30 points per game in a full season again, but i don't think it's because Mcgrady is past his prime. Mcgrady still has the capabilities and skills to average 30 a game. Van Gundy would be the reason why Mcgrady won't average 30 a game anymore. With Yao coming out as more of a guy to go to, and the way Van Gundy wants the Rockets to play mostly running stuff through his big men, Mcgrady probably won't get the shots to score 30 a game anymore.
Charlie Villanueva is going to be an incredable player as he gains consistancy and experience, I love that guy. People forget how much talent he has and how many things he can do with his amazing size. I love Villanueva and Bosh but I don't see much in the way of above average talent other than those two players.
