I don't think you guys are giving him nearly enough credit. His FG ad 3pt % have gone up 3 and 2% respectively. That is huge IMO. For example, if all of the Blazers had as virtually identical as Brooks has to their own regular season numbers we would be playing the L*akers right now instead of Houston.
Brooks in the red suit and bow tie the other night was hilarious. His teammates played a joke on him and told him that they all where going to wear red suits for the press conference after the game.
Maybe. Bayless will never be as good a shooter as Brooks is, nor will he be as quick. Really, Bayless is still an unknown quantity for the most part, but he has a lot of potential. Ultimately, I hope you're right, but he's not there yet.
O'rlly? Please, go back and watch high school tape and games at UA. Bayless is a great shooter. Maybe not the 3 pt shooter that Brooks is, but definitely a better mid-range shooter. Do not just base his game off of one rookie year. With his work ethic, there is no doubt in my mind he will be a star in this league.
I completely disagree with this Minstrel. Look I know we watch Portland most of the time, but Aaron Brooks jumped into a starter role this year and played great in that role. If anything, I think it is the other way around. See, I seem to remember Rudy struggling through large sections of the season, especially when he supposedly hit that "rookie wall". The facts are Houston traded away their starting PG and put Brooks in because he was playing well. I don't seem to remember anybody being moved out of the starting lineup in Portland so that Rudy could be inserted into the starting lineup. The facts are, if Portland players were as good as the fans on this board made them out to be, they would still be in the playoffs. They aren't. That goes to show, there is a lot more to a basketball team than the list of talent on the roster. Houston is a prime example of that. Their "nobodies" outplayed our wonderful "KP drafted talent", and that is a fact.
Wow. Teams trade players for lots of reasons. Brooks and Alston were about equal in terms of effectiveness this season. But, they were different kinds of players. Altson was a better defender. Brooks was a better (but streaky) offensive player. The Rockets were already an excellent defensive team and obviously wanted to go with a more explosive offensive threat and a much younger player. As for comparing Brooks "beating out" Altson to Rudy not forcing a trade of Brandon Roy - well, I can't even fathom why you would make such a point as it is so completely absurd. Of course Rudy didn't force the Blazers to trade Roy. A rookie Ray Allen wouldn't have done that. 08-09 Season: PER: Rudy 15.4 Brooks 12.9 Offensive Rating Rudy 120 Brooks 105 Defensive Rating Rudy 109 Brooks 108 Win Shares Rudy 5.8 Brooks 3.6
First of all you made the jump about Rudy surplanting Roy in the starting lineup. I never suggested that, you just tried to put words in my mouth. All I said is that on HIS team that he was able to surplant the starter with his good play, which attests to his level of play. That has to do with Houston, and Houstons situation. It has nothing to do with Rudy's situation in Portland. Secondly, throw out all the stats you want. You obviously didn't read anything I said about it's not the list of wonderful talent you have on paper, it's what you get done on the court. Is Rudy in the second round? What are the stats of Rudy in the 2nd round as compared to Brooks? Oh that's right. Rudy didn't maket it to the second round. Why don't you throw up the stats of how they did in the playoffs, instead of just the numbers you listed up above? Is it because Brooks is averaging 16.5 pts and 3.5 assist and Rudy averaged 7.5 and 1 assist? Talk about being selective.
The point I made that you disagreed with (as captured above) was that Rudy was above average during the regular season, while Brooks wasn't. Regular season. Why would playoff stats have anything to do with that point? Stats are a record of what "you get done on the court." What's the relevance? I said that Rudy was an above average player during the regular season (a much larger sample size than the playoffs) and Brooks wasn't. I wasn't doing an analysis of which player was on the better team. Rudy is a better player than Brooks. Rudy having a poor six games in his first ever playoff experience while Brooks had two great playoff games (but has otherwise been very mediocre in the playoffs) doesn't mean a whole lot.
Well, if that is not what you were implying then your point is lost on me. What the fuck ARE you tying to say then? Do you even have a point worth making here? Don't think so. It says as much about the fact that the Rockets were rolling with a marginal starter at Brooks' position. As a 20 something pick and a still young player, Brooks has done well. Looked at objectively against the pool of NBA PGs, he is very streaky, and overall below average so far as a starter in his career. Yet you were the one who implied that Rudy wasn't all that because he didn't do the same thing that Brooks did. Still stands as a stupid point in my book. If you want to compare apples to oranges go right ahead. Makes you look silly in the fruit department. "Scoreboard". That's all you have. That is what Jackass Laker fans say. Why say it? It is so completely moronic. If you think the Rockets are in the 2nd round BECAUSE of Brooks and the Blazers are not BECAUSE of Rudy, you.....ahhhhg. Forget it. Not worth it. Small sample size. Duh. Do you know anything about stats? And, yes, it's true, Brooks has stepped it up in the playoffs and Rudy laid an egg. That isn't news. Ok? So here you go: Playoff Advanced Stats: PER: Rudy 11.3 Brooks 16.2 Offensive Rating Rudy 102 Brooks 112 Defensive Rating Rudy 109 Brook 111 Win Shares Rudy (6 games) .2 (.033 per game) Brooks (10 games) .8 (.080 per game) These stats show: Rudy stunk, and Brooks stats are good, but not particularly impressive. THESE are impressive playoff stats for a Point Guard: PER: 25.8 Offensive Rating: 142 Defensive Rating: 105 Win Shares (9 games): 2.4 (.266 per game) Chauncey Billups
