As i said i wasn't comparing the teams. THe point of the post was never to underestimate a team in the series.
What? that is completely irrelevant to the argument. you brought up two completely different teams than what they are now. that's just dumb.
What i was trying to show is that the lakers of 2002 had only 2 primary scores. The kings of those years had multiple scorer and were much more talented. The lakers won.Now both lakers and kings team of today are much more weaker but the fact remains that the lakers have 2 primary scorers [maybe] and the kings have multiple scorers. I am not saying the teams are similar, but their situations interms of their rosters compared are the same [ interms of kings have multiple scorers]
Yeah, those Kings teams were crazy talented, but it didn't matter, because the Lakers' big two beat them.
Back in 02 Lakers had two primary scorers:1)Shaquille O'Neal2)Kobe Bryantwhile the Kings had:1)Chris Webber2)Mike Bibby3)Peja Stojacovic4)Bobby Jackson5)Doug Christie6)Vlade Divac (when needed)see clutch_melo's point? now lakers have Kobe mainly, and sometimes Odom shows up. Kings have Artest, Bibby, Wells, Thomas, Miller, etc... but we still beat the kings twice this year.
Are you somehow trying to compare those two teams? Come on. The Lakers 02-03 team was much better. They had Shaq, now their second best player is Odom. Are you somehow trying to compare Odom with Shaq? lol.
laker fans, you are underrating the hellout of Shaq. He was the best player in the league at that point. you can't replace Shaq with Odom and say they're still a better team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Apr 2 2006, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>laker fans, you are underrating the hellout of Shaq. He was the best player in the league at that point. you can't replace Shaq with Odom and say they're still a better team.</div> That's not what we're saying. Those Lakers teams had two primary scorers and the Kings had about 6. They still beat them, thus disproving your theory that a team with only one or two real scorers cannot beat a team with a lot of scorers.
The Lakers had two 27 ppg scorers and a bunch of solid leaders on the floor. And not to mention the deisel who was a great helpf ro them on defense and offense in the post.Now they have a bunch of young, inexperienced players and EVERYONE ont their roster is inconsistent except for Kobe.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lakaboy42 @ Apr 2 2006, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'> That's not what we're saying. Those Lakers teams had two primary scorers and the Kings had about 6. They still beat them, thus disproving your theory that a team with only one or two real scorers cannot beat a team with a lot of scorers.</div>wow, you're dumb. YOU CAN HAVE TWO SCORERS IF THEY ARE SHAQ AND KOBE! they arent' better than the Kings with that offense bc they are not as talented! It has nothing to do with having 2 options to 6. It's that the Lakers 2 options aren't as good. Why are you being so damn stubborn?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Apr 2 2006, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>wow, you're dumb. YOU CAN HAVE TWO SCORERS IF THEY ARE SHAQ AND KOBE! they arent' better than the Kings with that offense bc they are not as talented! It has nothing to do with having 2 options to 6. It's that the Lakers 2 options aren't as good. Why are you being so damn stubborn?</div>Kobe and Shaq's combined scoring output during 2001-2002- 52.4Kobe and Lamar's combined scoring output during 2005-2006- 49.7The differnce in scoring of Kobe and Lamar this season compared to Kobe and Shaq back then isn't all that great.
Are you kidding me? That is rediculous to compare ppg. Just the presence that Shaq brings ont he court is so great. He is the most efficient scorer in the League on offense and just by him drawing double and triple teams in the post draws up open looks for guys in the wing. He is also a great passer out of the double team. And his defense was great when he was young. He was not as lazy as he is now and when he is standing under the net, players sometimes would refuse to drive on him because they were scared. His presence on both ends is simply amazing. It was very hard to get a lay in or dunk over Shaq. Very hard, almost impossible. He clogged the hole very well and mauevered their offense very well even when he wasn't scoring.To compare Kobe and Shaq to Kobe and Lamar Odom is simply rediculous.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 2 2006, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Are you kidding me? That is rediculous to compare ppg. Just the presence that Shaq brings ont he court is so great. He is the most efficient scorer in the League on offense and just by him drawing double and triple teams in the post draws up open looks for guys in the wing. He is also a great passer out of the double team. And his defense was great when he was young. He was not as lazy as he is now and when he is standing under the net, players sometimes would refuse to drive on him because they were scared. His presence on both ends is simply amazing. It was very hard to get a lay in or dunk over Shaq. Very hard, almost impossible. He clogged the hole very well and mauevered their offense very well even when he wasn't scoring.To compare Kobe and Shaq to Kobe and Lamar Odom is simply rediculous.</div>I know, but all we're talking about is scoring. We're talking about having two primary scorers vs. having 5 or 6. Lamar and Kobe scoring wise are about even with Shaq and Kobe, it's every other aspect of the game where they get crushed.
I know what you are saying and the lakers of 02-03 were more than just 2 players. Fisher, Horry, and Fox all played crucial roles for the Lakers. Smush Parker, Mihm, and Devean George are not even in the same league for role players. So this years lakers team is really a 2 man team and Odom is very inconsistent. So I don't see a 2 superstar tandom dominate unless the role players do their job.
Kings easily.......I am scared if the Spurs play them in the first round even tho i know the spurs would win in at worst 6 games......but they are a dangerous team....they have a DEEP team
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 3 2006, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know what you are saying and the lakers of 02-03 were more than just 2 players. Fisher, Horry, and Fox all played crucial roles for the Lakers. Smush Parker, Mihm, and Devean George are not even in the same league for role players. So this years lakers team is really a 2 man team and Odom is very inconsistent. So I don't see a 2 superstar tandom dominate unless the role players do their job.</div>Yeah, but the difference between the role players now and then for the Lakers is about the same as the primary scoring options now and then for the Kings. Their scoring has taken a dip with Webber, Jackson, and Peja gone.
