First Larry Riley Deal: Chris Bosh

The deal is the Warriors get Bosh, but have to give up AB, Randolph, and Belinelli which still doesn't make the salaries right. After June 30th, both AB and Monta become BYC2, so it makes it easier for them to be traded.

Bosh becomes our new center along with BWright and Jax/Buike front line I guess.

My two cents: This smells like a Don Nelsonus trade. He's going to destroy this Warriors team.

EDIT: There is no more BYC2, so both AB and Monta are free and clear after June 30th.

 

Where'd you read this? Or are just saying this could be a possibility?

I don't really like it. Beans is still a dealbreaker for me, it would have to be a steal for me to give him up. And I think Beli could be a very good 2 next to Monta, better than anyone else we have anyway, including Jax.

 

Bosh is not a difference maker. Look at the team he was playing with;

Calderon - better PG than anyone here
O'Neal/Marion - better than AB (maybe its a push)
Kapono - better shooter than Morrow or anyone else
Anthony Parker - better defender and player than SJax
Bargani - better than Turiaf (maybe)

Where did they finish?

You do not trade cheap young assets for someone who has maxed out already.

Bosh is a nice player but he's not going to get any better yet he's going to be asking for even more max $$. Look at JKidd, was he worth $20M+/yr. the past two years?

 

JV, is this your trade idea, did you hear people talking that this is a possibility? If so, where? In all honestly, If this proposal came from outside the core group of posters, I'd think that the poster was trolling. You're saying that AB, Randolph, and Belinelli 3 of Nellie's and Warrior fan favorites are on their way out to get Bosh? You'd see season ticket cancellations at a record clip. Now I know you hate Nellie. But this is a bit much, even for you.

 

Biedrins is a much more efficient piece for the Warriors.

Bosh doesn't bring the defense/shotblocking/rebounding that Biedrins does.

He has some better offensive mid range moves, but meh.

 

I agree Sjax is way better than Anthony Parker, but I still like the idea of Bosh playing next to Biedrins. I'd deal Wright or Randolph for that to happen. I love Randolph but he seems like the kind of guy that would bolt for LA, plus he'd take a few years before we figure out what position he is (like a Charlie Villanueva or Lamar Odom). With Bosh it's pretty clear what position he is and he milks it at the foul line. As far as defense is concerned, I don't see him being much worse than Pau Gasol. At least they block shots, what about guys like Troy Murphy and Zach Randolph? I think we need more halfcourt players who can also run, not just one or the other and that is Bosh IMO.

 

I read it here and I do think it's something that could have been offered from Toronto's side. A lot of times, we hear one sided trades and I think it's the proposal from one side. I don't think the source makes up stuff like a Peter Vecsey or Sam Smith. There's usually some truth to it and I think putting AB up is one of the requirements, even for salary purposes alone. Second, I don't pull trades out of thin air, and if I do, I make sure to state that it's a proposal that I've come up with.:

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawaka...ear-status-goes-away-after-june-30/#more-4614

Follow up:
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawaka...-go-get-chris-bosh-if-he-can-do-it/#more-4594

 

I love Bosh, but to give up both Biedrins and Randolph and throw in Belinelli too, for short term contract, that's just nuts. No way in hell do I do that deal from a Warriors perspective. Biedrins is about as solid a guy as there is in the NBA, not flashy or spectacular, but very, very good and super dependable, and with a very good contract. Randolph will be All-Star calibre in two to three years, yes I am buying into the hype after watching him play all year. And while I still have questions about Belinelli, I think he's got more value that trade filler.

 

I agree with HiRez and philsmith, in that 1. we still don't have the pieces to win if we make this trade for Bosh, 2. because of that, we are extemely unlikely to be able to lure Bosh to stay after his contract is up. Bosh is a great player, no doubt, who'd make our offense alot more efficient, but it's just not worth it in the short term. I think our priority has to be shedding the other bad contracts first, but I don't doubt Riley is making Bosh or some other "proven young veteran" his priority like Kawakami said. The strategy Riley suggets is wrong for the Warriors; I'd rather go for a risky move taking an underachiever (by moving the bad contracts along with some young unproven talent). With Bosh, there are a billion trade rumors with him, and with all the demand, his trade value can only go up, making any chance of getting a deal pretty minimal.

 

Seems like usual Kawakami fantasy article. No way we give up Biedrins and Randolph to do this deal. Like everybody said, it would be highly unlikely that we will keep Bosh after 09-10 season. There are tons of teams with huge salary caps in 2010 offseason, and if both James and Wade resigns this season, all focus will be on Bosh. If that happens, we really don't have much leverage to resign him. I am not down on Bosh though. I will part AB, Monta or AR along with couple young talents, like Marco/Morrow/Azubuike ect. But, I simply don't see why he would stay with this club after 2010. I really hope our 'new' management isn't that dumb to even consider...

 

Kawakami... It makes perfect sense now. Apologies for the previous post

 

My initial reaction was to jump on you and say "WTF, are you serious???"

But, after some thinking, I'll just say, "WTF!" LOL

 

I don't want Bosh. I'm happier with:

Biedrins/Turiaf
Randolph/Wright

 

Apology accepted. Tim K is not the greatest journalist or writer, nor someone who breaks stories, but I think he's got some irons in the fire and for discussion fodder, it's enough.