Overall, considering everything. Cost of living, people, things to do, etc. California...it seems...is getting more and more fucked with the budget. Kind of depressing how shitty this state is. I love the weather, but outside of that, its kind of a shithole.
But you can take the crosstown bus If its raining or its cold, And the animals will love it If you do. barfo
Californians have been moving to Oregon for decades because of the "livability," which is just a fancy way of saying that California fucking sucks. Best place? Haarlem, NL. Seriously that place is ballah
Best place to live if you have money: San Diego or Bay Area Worst place to live if you are low on funds: San Diego or Bay Area
Have to disagree with you on the Bay Area... It ain't great. Oregon (mostly Central Oregon) is so much better than California, and it isn't close. Colorado is pretty sweet too, and actually reminds me quite a bit of Central Oregon.
I think this is what sparked this....the other night at dinner I was talking with some peeps about Vegas real estate prices and how fucking low they are right now. I can't live in Vegas though....i get sick of that place after 3 or 4 days.