So KP is planning on picking Blake and Outlaw back up.

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  1. hasoos

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    I am worried about resigning Outlaw. Not worried about Blake. I just think Outlaw is on the decline of his career. Unless we keep him in hopes that he can have a good first half of the season and trade him before the deadline if the right deal comes along.
     
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    It is a no brainer to me. Based on their salaries you would be stupid not to. Even if you want to replace them they have value in a trade. But again based on their salaries they are at the very least excellent role players. The only debate is what are their roles.
     
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    I can sort of see keeping Blake, though he is coming off of shoulder surgery.

    I don't see any reason why they would keep Outlaw, though. He killed his trade value in the playoffs by not even bothering to show up.

    It's comments like these that make me believe KP is going to come up empty this off season. If he values these two extremely mediocre players this highly, how much does he value players who are actually good?

    Far too much, I would say.
     
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    I think they said that:
    If they're not on our team, we can't pick up their options. :) There's a scenario.
     
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    The thing that makes this stuff so hard to figure out is that if I was KP, I would say I was picking them up too. The reason being:

    1. If they are back on the team, I want them to feel wanted.
    2. I don't want other teams to be able to make plans based upon released information, such as who will be a free agent, and who will not.
    3. If you don't have them under contract, you can't use them as trade value.

    Now on the other end of the scale, once again, my mind runs with the fact that I wonder if KP is too loyal to the guys he has here. Is he too close to them to make an objective decision? Or is it the fact that if not for a few injuries, he think this team can contend? It could be either, neither, or both.
     
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    And in the article, they got the 52M cap number wrong. Blake and Outlaw aren't committed to yet, so the number's around 45M
     
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    He very straight forwardly said that was with Blake, Oden and a 1st round draft pick included.
     
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    I don't understand re-signing either of them, but that is why I am not the GM. I trust KP and hope he has a plan.
     
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    Reality check:

    As mediocre as Blake and Outlaw are, you better have a plan for replacing them before you throw them out of the lifeboat.

    Do you really want to see 30 MPG from Sergio? Do you want to have Webster as our only "safety" net if anything happens to Batum? Do you want naked pictures of Rosie O'Donnel as your screen-saver?
     
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    It's a no brainer that we have to pickup both Blake and Outlaw at their salaries. The only case would be if someone wants to offer us a trade of something we can't refuse and need the cap space. I'm pretty frustrated with both at times but they are both worth far more then their options and we would be crazy to not pick them up. Now if we make a offer to Frye then I would be pissed.
     
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    Yes and yes!

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    Now that was uncalled for. :eek:


    :shitstorm:
     
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    They are not technically resigning them. They would be picking up the option for the last year of their current contracts.
     
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    I haven't actually paid attention to how often teams don't pick up the option for certain players. For bubble players, surely. But for rotation players, I would have to guess they get picked up most of the time.
     
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    So these are for 1 year deals...got it...thank you.

    It does make sense then, to be able to have them so we can trade them.
     
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    This may just mean that KP has bigger plans to find players via trade rather than free-agency
     
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    Correct. Both are proven NBA players on very cheap contracts. Whether you plan to keep them, or trade them, you pick up their options. They are either cheap proven back-ups on your team, or valuable trade assets to bring you something of value in return. Given the state of the economy, the reduced salary cap and luxury tax threshold, and the fact that many teams are struggling financially, proven NBA players on cheap, short contracts could actually be pretty good trade assets. Re-signing both is a no brainer.

    BNM
     
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    I have to ask...is this the Pinwheel1 from years ago on the Hoopsworld message boards?
     
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    Boob owns you.
     
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