Next year we will be a Powerhouse

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  1. Ghost Pepper

    Ghost Pepper Active Member

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    The TWOLVES aren't going to win a championship before we win a few, that said..... I see Joel wanting to stick around for that! Don't You?
     
  2. gambitnut

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    That would be putting the good of the team and a team goal above money and his competitive ego. I'd like to think that he would do that, but in this day and age, no, I don't see many people putting championships above money and playing time.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    If Portland also offered him $6-7 million, I think he'd stay. It's not my money, but in terms of worth relative to other players, I think Przybilla is worth that. I don't think it would be a silly overpay.
     
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    I like Joel, but I'm not sure that I'd pay him a ton more than he makes now. We can find other seven footers who rebound and play defense, maybe not as well as him, but still serviceable, for the MLE.
     
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    $6-7 million isn't much above the MLE. I'd pay slightly more to secure such a good big man. Many teams cycle through pretty overrated and overpaid big men, looking for a decent player off the bench. I wouldn't do something crazy like max Przybilla out, but I no other team would either. I'd pay single-digit millions per year for him, though.
     
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    I agree, he has been a huge part of what the team has done this season. I'd hate to lose him while Oden is developing. Two big men are better than one.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Put this in perspective knob gobblers like Dan Gadzuric make around 6 million a year. Joel is a bargain.
     
  8. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    well we've answered that one now haven't we?
     
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    Blake averaged 10 ppg/6 assists/4 rebs/1.5 TOs in 6 games against Houston, shot 49% from the field (42% from 3), and had a PER of 15, which put him just below Mike Bibby and Aaron Brooks and ahead of Derrick Rose, Rodney Stuckey, JJ Barrea, Mo Williams, Jason Terry, and Rafer Alston.

    What question were you looking to have answered? Blake played fairly well in the playoffs. Chris Paul's PER was only 1 point above Blake's. Maybe New Orleans should get rid of Paul since he's their "franchise" player?
     
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    Blake and (as a result) our entire offensive flow looked like total shit every game of the playoffs. His stats always masks his many weaknesses because he doesn't do anything that the defense doesn't totally give him (wide open shots, easy passes around the perimeter). The guy can't do any damn thing a PG's supposed to do. Run the break, penetrate, or make entry passes. He is a bad, undersized, shooting specialist.
     
  12. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Honestly...Blake played pretty well compared to most of the other players.
     
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    In other words, the stats don't back up your criticism, so it's on to the opinion stage.
     
  14. shamelessblazer

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    Did you watch the games man? The national announcers were making fun of blake every single game. How about the stats on that shit-crazy three point airball? I wish there were "clutch" stats because combining that with his epic free throw outing would be a nice 'stat' to show how much he sucks.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    To be fair, they were making fun of everyone not named "Roy" or "Aldridge".

    Could it be that our failure in the playoffs was a result of the entire team and not just one player?

    Hmm? ._.
     
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    your memory is wrong here. The Blazer offer he went with was reported as both for more dollars annually and an extra year over what then the Pistons and Spurs offered. He went with the biggest contract he was offered so I wouldn't place too much faith in him having franchise loyalty. I'd imagine extra millions of dollars can help make most places bearable.

    Back when Joel was a FA, I was surprised that the Bulls didn't get him as they had the capspace to sign him to an even bigger deal then Portland could offer (due to PatterNash's cap mismanagment) and had a glaring need in the middle for a rebound/defender. Instead they threw insane dollars at Ben Wallace who chose to leave a Pistons club he'd been with for 6 years seeing them rise from 32-50 in 2000-1 to NBA champs to join the Baby Bulls.

    There are multiple examples to site of supposed working class hero type players (Brian Grant, Steve Nash) who show that cash is king when they're given a choice between it and loyalty to the franchise they play for and a winning siutation. Signing the largest deal possible helps boost the MLE up for other FAs as well. I suspect thats how players rationalize their loyalty.

    STOMP
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    For his next trick, STOMP will tell a small child Santa isn't real. :devilwink:
     
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    Oh how I wish this wasn't true.


    But unfortunately it is.
     
  19. RickyRubio

    RickyRubio He Hate Me

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    I would hate to see Joel go. I would also be comfortable paying him 6-8 mil a year, as long as the contract isn't too long. 3 years max with no option.

    Blake is a fine PG. You guys are just looking for a scapegoat. Pick Oden if you want to blame the playoffs on someone. He played awful. But he is still young.
     
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    Well wait a minute. Stats showed Z-bo to be an elite PF. Doesn't mean he helped the flow of the offense. Stats don't show everything.
     

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