Who is the better player? I think they are very similar. Both are not true points, both shoot well and drive to the basket well.Debate.
This year it's Mike James.19 PPG. 5 APG. 46% FG and 43% from beyond the arc. Mike James is very explosive and will drive it in a alot. He can hit the shot and is a 4th quarter guy.So i'd pick Mike James.
Good debate.To me, I see Jason Terry as the better player. When watching Dallas play, Terry seems to be as important as Nowitzki sometimes. He was undoubtedly the reason the Mavs beat Houston last year, as he hit numerous big shots while Dirk was shooting 30%. He averages 17 PPG on 47% shooting, a respectable mark. Mike James actually puts up almost identical numbers, but Terry has proved to be more clutch, and had the best 7 games of his life last year against James' Rockets (Although James was a bench player at that time)Terry gets it
^James has been very clutch for us as well, probably more so then Terry. James' has made very big 4th quarter shots for us and that's when he takes over. He shoots a very high percentage in the 4th quarter and his stellar play has helped us win all of our games down the stretch. He and Bosh are the leaders of the team as well.He puts up better numbers then Terry and he has been the better shooter. I vote for Mike.
i definitely take Jason Terry. He has always been a good shooter/scorer. He is more of an offensive threat and he's contributing to a winning team. Mike James is inconsistent, and i honestly think he's playing this well bc it's his contract year and he wants to make more money.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 2 2006, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^James has been very clutch for us as well, probably more so then Terry. James' has made very big 4th quarter shots for us and that's when he takes over. He shoots a very high percentage in the 4th quarter and his stellar play has helped us win all of our games down the stretch. He and Bosh are the leaders of the team as well.He puts up better numbers then Terry and he has been the better shooter. I vote for Mike.</div>clutch doesn't count if your team doesn't win. Terry is way more clutch.
What are you talking about? More of an offensive threat? Mike leads Terry in PPG and APG. I don't know what you mean by that at all. Oh yeah so he just woke up onje day and decided that he was going to average 20 ppg. Come on. He has been playing well bc of his hard work and effort. And when a player plays well in the 4th quarter and is the only one to do so in the 4th then it is being clutch. He is more clutch then Terry.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 2 2006, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What are you talking about? More of an offensive threat? Mike leads Terry in PPG and APG. I don't know what you mean by that at all. Oh yeah so he just woke up onje day and decided that he was going to average 20 ppg. Come on. He has been playing well bc of his hard work and effort. And when a player plays well in the 4th quarter and is the only one to do so in the 4th then it is being clutch. He is more clutch then Terry.</div>Terry is more talented than James offensively. If he got the same looks and he had the same control in the offense, he would easily match Mike James' stats.Did you watch last year's playoffs? Mavs vs. Rockets: Terry was the reason Dallas won tht series. He is clutch.i realize Mike James had to work for it, but he has that extra motivation of the bigger paycheck. Watch, next year if he gets a longterm contract, he'll slack off.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 2 2006, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What are you talking about? More of an offensive threat? Mike leads Terry in PPG and APG. I don't know what you mean by that at all. Oh yeah so he just woke up onje day and decided that he was going to average 20 ppg. Come on. He has been playing well bc of his hard work and effort. And when a player plays well in the 4th quarter and is the only one to do so in the 4th then it is being clutch. He is more clutch then Terry.</div> Mike James is playing for his big contract this summer, Jason Terry has been consistantly good throughout his career, James has been a journeyman who just doesn't give a <Censored> unless money is on the line.
I don't believe that. He just has never gotten a chance to shine bc he didn't have good pg skills. He adjusts to what the team needs and he really does care.Detroit needed good defense off the bench, he did that.Raptors needed a leader on offense who can make shots, he did that.I think he is not playing for a money but a chance to play for the same team for more then 1 or two years which he has not done yet.
I agree with CB4 in a sense that Mike James is simply getting much more playing time this year. He's starteed everygame, whereas last year he was a 6th man. That accounts more to stat improvement than a contract year
James has good talent in him, but he's playing like this because its his contract year. He doesnt even come close to Terry overall. Terry's played on <Censored> Hawk teams, and always gave 100% out there on the floor. He was the one who his teamates depended on to carry the load. Besides, James is starting to get cocky with his 'outrageous' 18 ppg average and saying he deserves more cash...please, guys like Gilbert dont even have fat contracts and GA averages almost 30 a game and dishes 6 dimes, and is actually leading him team to the playoffs.
get your stats right. James' averages 20 ppg. Blah blah blah. I dont care if he led the Hawks. We are talking about the better player here and I don't see how that doesn't go to Mike.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 2 2006, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't believe that. He just has never gotten a chance to shine bc he didn't have good pg skills. He adjusts to what the team needs and he really does care.Detroit needed good defense off the bench, he did that.Raptors needed a leader on offense who can make shots, he did that.I think he is not playing for a money but a chance to play for the same team for more then 1 or two years which he has not done yet.</div> Detroit wanted an expiring contract from james. He has gotten his chance to shine when he was in Boston and Houston. Now he has extra motivation bc he wants more money.edited-no need for swearing
He has never gotten a full time starting job which means he has never gotten a chance to shine. That doesn't make any sense at all. So James' just decided to become one of the best shooters in the League and decidded to up his ppg averages by 8 just because it was a contract year? Come on. He is playing ell bc he has gotten the chance and he is taking advantage of his role. Sur, he wants to stay on a certain team so he is trying to prove that he belongs but he also wants to stay with the Raptors. I see no problem with wanting to stay with a team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 2 2006, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>get your stats right. James' averages 20 ppg. Blah blah blah. I dont care if he led the Hawks. We are talking about the better player here and I don't see how that doesn't go to Mike.</div>It's actually 19.4, but you rounded up to make him look worse, whe he was only 1.4 ppg off.Right now, James is only averaging 2 ppg more than Terry, they're shooting about the same percentages. That means James gets more touches. If you look at Jet's stats in ATL, they are just as good as James' stats w/ Toronto, and that was when he was 2 and 3 years into the league.Are you serious? you don't see how it doesn't go to mike? Terry is SOO much more talented. He has just as good of a shot, he's a better ballhandler, he plays more under control, he is way more clutch.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 2 2006, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He has never gotten a full time starting job which means he has never gotten a chance to shine. That doesn't make any sense at all. So James' just decided to become one of the best shooters in the League and decidded to up his ppg averages by 8 just because it was a contract year? Come on. He is playing ell bc he has gotten the chance and he is taking advantage of his role. Sur, he wants to stay on a certain team so he is trying to prove that he belongs but he also wants to stay with the Raptors. I see no problem with wanting to stay with a team.</div>He started for the Celtics and Rockets.I can't believe you just said Mike freaking James is "one of the best shooters in the league". that's just ridiculous. I'm not denying that he has improved i was just saying (for the last time) he has extra motivation. You caould say the same EXACT thing about Mark Blount. Did you see the improvement he made his contract year? he almost got MIP. And then did you see how he played the next year when he got a long term contract? yeah, that's what i thoguht.
We are not comparing Terry when he was with ATL. We are comparing the 2 right now. I say james is the better shooter. He is maybe the best 3 pt shooters in the L. Better ball handler, ok maybe Mike turns the ball over alot but so do the greats like Lebron and Tmac, that is not a great stat to compare. That is just Mike trying to make plays. Way more clutch? How? Mike is great in 4th quarters. That is what clutch is. I think he is more clutch int he 4th quarter the Terry but I can't seem to find any stat on that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 2 2006, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We are not comparing Terry when he was with ATL. We are comparing the 2 right now. I say james is the better shooter. He is maybe the best 3 pt shooters in the L. Better ball handler, ok maybe Mike turns the ball over alot but so do the greats like Lebron and Tmac, that is not a great stat to compare. That is just Mike trying to make plays. Way more clutch? How? Mike is great in 4th quarters. That is what clutch is. I think he is more clutch int he 4th quarter the Terry but I can't seem to find any stat on that.</div>you can't compare LeBron's turnovers to Mike James'. that's ridiculous. They have the ball in their hands all the time, and they draw double and triple teams. Mike James for the most part has single coverage during the game. I wasn't comparing James w/ the ATL terry. I said Terry was more talented. I was using Terry's experience in ATL to prove that being on a worse team padded both of their stats.Jet plays clutch in BIG GAMES. His team is winning. Once again, you can't be sonsidered clutch if your team almost never wins.
Ok alright. Jason terry is a better ball handler. Mike is good at throwing alley oops and he gets more apg and ppg.Look at this stat I found.Jason Terry averages 17.3 ppg when his team wins.Mike James averages 21.7 ppg when his team wins. So I guess Mike contributes more offensively to help his team win.And both of these guys are second options on good offenses so I don't see your point there.
