Chad Ford Mock Draft 4.0

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  1. Da_O

    Da_O Abe Vigoda lives!

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    I don't think anyone posted this but here goes

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2009/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=MockDraft-090610

    You need insider to read the rest of the article, I will just post who he said the Blazers will take.

    Other Notables

    Hansbrough going 11
    Blair going 16
    Maynor 17
     
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  2. RickyRubio

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    6-9 243 with a shot? I am cool with that.
     
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    Yeah I like this pick too. He was of the fastest, most agile, and strongest at the combine. Not tops in anything but high in all of them. And in the speed ones he was the only guy his size up near the top. Seems like a great hustle guy that can bang cause of his strength also.
     
  4. bigbailes

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    i agree. sounds like one of those classic role players that can come off the bench and do some work. never going to be a star but a very solid nba guy.
     
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    Surprised they have Hansborough at 11. I haven't heard anything about him going earlier than late 1st early 2nd.
     
  6. Webster's Dictionary

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    Haven't seen much of Summers. Sounds just like Travis Outlaw to me. Anyone care to dispell this?
     
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    Well he is either one of two things. He is either versatile, and can play multiple positions well, or he is a tweener like Travis, and cannot thrive at either position, and only have a good game when the matchup is "just right".
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Summers 248 lbs.. Outlaw 207. Actually I have never seen Summers Play so I had to go with something smartass like this :D
     
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    Does everyone that can play the 3 or the 4 sound like Travis Outlaw to you?
     
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    He's deadly from the corner 3's. Can't defend worth a lick though.
     
  11. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Sounds like James Jones.
     
  12. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Summers may be heavier than Outlaw, but he's an equally poor rebounder. No thanks. These are his weaknesses from DraftExpress:

    - Stuck between 3 and 4
    - Turnover prone
    - Ball-handling skills
    - Back to basket scoring
    - Lateral quickness
    - Doesn't always play hard
    - Mental toughness
    - Physical Toughness
    - Questionable intangibles
    - College system makes him difficult to evaluate
    - Not productive enough
    - Poor assist/turnover ratio
    - Poor rebounder
    - Pull-up jumper
    - Relies too heavily on outside shot

    Doesn't sound like he's well suited to be either a 3 (bad handle, poor lateral quickness) or a 4 (poor rebounder, weak back-to-the-basket game) in the NBA. Classic tweener - in the bad way. I want our back-up 4 to be a banger. A great rebounder and someome who puts a body on somebody and pushes them out of the paint and isn't afraid of playing physical defense. I don't want a soft, jump shooting 3 masquerading as a 4.

    BTW, DraftExpress has him going at 35. 24 is too early, and I wouldn't even want him at 35 (or even 55).

    BNM
     
  13. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I wouldn't mind the Blazers taking Hansbrough at 24. He's low risk, low upside. I think he'll be a career back-up (or a starter on a crappy team), but I think he'll be a very good role player, high energy guy off the bench and solid contributor in limited minutes.

    DraftExpress now has him going 20 to Utah (makes sense if they lose Boozer and move Millsap into the starting roll). After measuring out a little bigger than expected, and having some good camps/workouts, he's been moving up, but this is the first mock I've seen that has him in the lottery.

    BNM
     
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    Yeah I was looking for his profile on draft express.. from what I heard I expected to find him somewhere in the 1st round.. I had to search all the way into the second round dammit!
     
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    Sounds almost as terrible as this guy (from draft Express):

    -lack of a standout trait that he can bank on at the next level.
    -he doesn’t have that “blow-by” explosiveness or “dunk contest” leaping ability
    -“consummate roleplayer” type at the next level, as opposed to a full out star.
    -he can still work on making his 3-point shot a more consistent part of his repertoire.
    -doesn’t look to shoot the longball very often, and that will likely have to change at the next level.
    -his play borders on passive.
    -there are times when he is too willing to let other players dominate the ball.
    -he likely will be playing a complimentary role in the NBA
    -bad knee, which has bothered him for quite some time now.
    -a couple of surgeries may have robbed him of a bit of explosiveness.
    -his knee will get lots of attention from NBA teams.
     
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    who's that supposed to be?
     
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    Presumably Brandon Roy.
     
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    Wasn't there an article a few years back which said that if you drafted purely out of North Carolina, UConn, and I can't remember the 3rd school, they were listing off the team's you would have had on the floor, and it was flat out sick.

    Anyhow that being said, I think Hansborough is almost a perfect fit at backup PF/3rd center.

    He brings toughness, he stayed multiple years under a top tier coach to learn in college(A coach who has produced many NBA players at that.) He rebounds, he is capable of scoring. Hell the one time I saw him dunk on that 7'6" dude is almost enough to make me want him on the team alone.

    [video=youtube;htwkRYa0gOk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htwkRYa0gOk[/video]
     
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    I don't know if he can guard/rebound with all centers, even backups.

    That was obviously a travel, but it was very cool.
     
  20. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Nope. Sounds totally different to me. Sure there were questions about Roy (there are about every player), but he had a clear position and the skills to be a solid player at the next level. He was also a 1st team All-American. Summers couldn't even make 3rd Team (or even honorable mention) All Big East. So, Roy was considered on of the top 5 players in all of college basketball and Summers isn't even consider one of the top 20 players in his own conference.

    Go back and read the minuses on Summers again. He doesn't have the handles or lateral quickness to be a 3 at the NBA level, and he doesn't have a low post game or rebounding ability (let alone the size) to be a 4. The guy has the body of an undersized power forward, but likes to jack up perimiter jump shots. If I'm looking for a back-up 4, I don't mind him being a little undersized if he's willing to bang in the paint and get after it on the glass. Summers is neither one of those things. So, again, no thanks.

    BNM
     

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