Looks like the Rubio situation just went nasty

Yes and if you have watched the history of buyouts, typically teams and players are able to come to an agreement for less than originally agreed upon in the buyout. It has happened over and over again. It benefits both sides because for one, the player doesn't want to play there anymore. Any club with that hanging over their head it is just like having a permanent storm cloud following you around and raining on you. It doesn't go away until the player is gone, and it is hard for the team to move past it. The club also gets money out of it. Much more than they paid the player in the first place. The player gets to go and play where he wants to play. That is to his benefit. To say that money is the only object, when team cohesiveness is very important is lacking in vision.

 

I would rephrase that as "less" than originally agreed upon... In quotes because it's more of a token gesture, with the amount knocked off the top fairly minuscule compared to the total.

Also, Rubio's situation is the exact opposite of the typical NBA buyout, where a team is paying a player to get rid of him early. With Rubio, he's paying a team to let him go early. What is their incentive to do so? They have nothing to gain by letting him go, so it's in their interest to collect as much buyout as possible in exchange. The buyout is there to protect them from being a farm team... They don't want to invest all that development time and money for nothing.

 

I don't agree with that. I have seen several buyouts lowered over the years, like 50% reduction. True enough though I can also say I have seen a few teams not budge.

What actually would be funny is if Rubio played for the spanish team, and stuck them with the 6 million dollar bill from his buyout which is never coming.

 

I think Rubio's reasoning is that it was an unfair agreement. I think he made 70k this past year, but his buyout is over 5 million. That being said, his parents should have been smarter than that when signing his contract. Having a buyout clause that much higher than your salary and higher than what you'd make as a rookie in the NBA is incredibly stupid since there's no possible way for you to pay it.

 

Wasn't the buyout amount set just recently? Seems really sketchy to me that there would be such a large buyout on a contract with a 15-year-old kid making five figures...

 

I must have missed those...

I'm not sure there's such a thing as "fair" or "unfair" when it comes to living up to a contract you signed.

 

Huh. Yeah, too bad Rubio couldn't give true consent since he was so young.

If you can't vote, serve in the military or drive a car in the eyes of the law how can you be allowed to sign away your future work rights?

 

Yep, but most players do not have the mental focus to do all that. Too many of them TP the locker room, injure the owner's home, sleep with the owner's dog and steal his wife. Most owners would look at this as a positive!

 

Again, that example is more along the lines of the NBA buyout scenarios, where a team wants out from a bad contract. In the Euro (i.e. Rubio) scenario, if the player takes that approach, the team could simply cut him and have very little financial stake. Sure, they lose what they could have gotten in the buyout, but the gamble will pay off in their favor more often than not, given that few players want to make themselves look that bad on the court.

 

This thread seems like someones gleaming beam of hope that we will land Rubio somehow. It's just not in the cards fellas.

 

If they cut him, he'd just sign with whatever NBA team picked him with zero buyout. Again, why would his club do this?

 

Exactly.

Not because they would want to, but because they have that financial recourse that NBA teams do not. It would be like having an expiring contract to cash in any time you want. That's a rare commodity in today's NBA.

 

I think it is sad that I won't get to see him play in the NBA for another couple of years due to some bullshit, though apparently legal, tactics used by his former team. I have no idea if he would turn out good or not, but I was kind of looking forward to finding out.

 

Exactly.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Not that it has any bearing on our team, who has no interest at all in acquiring him, or our coach, who would never play him.

 

People who think CHILDREN have a god-given right to drop out of school and play sports should be required to study this case in depth. Rubio is caught up in an outrageous contract that his parents signed for him. A $5 million buy-out on a $70K contract? Thanks mom and dad...why not just call it "indentured servitude" and be done with it?

It really sounds like one of those Hollywood "stage parent" situations. You have to wonder if Rubio actually saw any of the money himself.