Having lived in CLE for the past three years, I can attest to this. One of my roommates last year went absolutely crazy after the Indians took a 3-1 lead against the Red Sox two years ago in the ALCS. These people are HUNGRY for a championship.
maybe I could see that. But I could also see some of the same here maybe, becasue the passion and how rabid this fan base can be. But you make a valid point too. I didnt think of that.
That area near staples is surrounded by poor black and mexican neighborhoods though with lots of gangs and crap like that. Same things happened in East LA. So yeah, its not representative of the races per se, its just what happens to be around. And those low socioeconomic areas are more prone to people willing to commit more property crimes than not I would imagine. I was in Westwood a while back and people were trying to turn cars over too, and it was a bunch of white, asian and middle eastern college students. However, they were actually really just pushing cars up and down instead of actually trying to turn them over...weren't starting fires. However, you have to take race into account in these situations. I mean, look at the last famous riots in the US, most have seemed predominantly black in terms of "perps". Its just that we are so conditioned to be so politically correct that we can no longer be honest with ourselves for risk of appearing racist. You can't go around and ignore the world around you as it is, make excuses and believe that everyone is intrisically good. stereotypes exist for a reason.
I'm not trying to be holier than though, but I don't see color anymore, at least not in a negative. What I see in that picture are idiotic people. They're uneducated, irresponsible, indecent, and immoral shitheads. I've seen a ton of caucasians that act the same moronic way. Blame it on their parents and/or the social environment they've been brought up in. That they happen to be black or hispanic is irrelevant. But it says a boatload about you.
Bon fire. What is wrong with that? Morth Carolina students do the same thing when the Tar Heels won. But do you see anyone tipping over cars and causing riots? Bon fire does not mean a riot. Nice try.
No fella. White as white. German, irish, scottish family tree. Seems like you started something you don't have the balls to finish. Sorry, I thought I'd met a great like minded man. Say what you have to say or quit posing. Either you meant what you said or you didn't.
Right so the guy being arrested was cuffed for making Smores. By the way you avoided my question on I think post #31
These public displays really fascinate me. Is it frustration-incarnate? Happiness becoming destructive. There's something culturally deeper here.
Don't believe bon fires are generally allowed in the middle of a city. I could be wrong. Don't know specific Pittsburgh laws. I did, howveer, see a mention in an article of 80 arrests in Pittsburgh. How many out of LA? Like 18 so far? Odd, for a city so huge.
It's not a question of being politically correct, it's about not confusing the causative factors. Riots tend to be perpetrated by poorer people in dense urban areas. Due to the history of race relations in the US, an enormous chunk of that poor urban population is black. The reason people resist what you consider "honest" appraisal is because the implication is that the violence is a trait of the race, when it is actually a trait of the socioeconomic circumstances that those people have been placed in.
No. The original intent was merely an observation that most of the rioters were black and mexican, which is probably pretty accurate.
How can you say it's culturally deep and not be a racist? When I said the same thing, in other words, yet I am a racist? Curious.
Not really. The initial comment was it would not happen in Portland, because we do not have as many blacks and mexicans. It wasn't a simple comment of, well, looks like in those pictures, it is all blacks and mexicans.
It's a release. Unfortunately, people without money or a lot of other things going for them in life put an enormous amount of their emotional investment in sports, and when it goes badly or well, it causes a lot of emotional release. As has been true of poorer, less educated people for millennia, that release is often violent in nature. And it bears noting that this isn't restricted to non-whites by any means. The greatest number of domestic abuse crimes occur on football Sundays, because there are a lot of men angry that their teams lost and looking to take out their frustration on someone. And many of those frustrated men are poor and white.
Your kidding yourself if you don't think caucasians haven't rioted violently in Los Angeles last night and after other monumental-type events. You not going to claim those? What's your excuse for them? They were raised by blacks or mexicans? It's all about socioeconomics, upbringing, and self-culturism. Branding an entire population sharing a shade of skin color is both moronic, ignorant, self-serving, and highly dangerous. In fact one can argue that your way of thinking is as dangerous as lighting a car on fire.
