Renouncing rights to Petteri and Freeland

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  1. RickyRubio

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    This was also on Courtside last night. Didn't anyone watch? I didn't see any threads about this.

    I am kind of disappointed. I thought both of those guys had a lot of potential. But I guess this is a sign that KP is done with being young. This also saves us a couple mil in cap space.

    Thoughts?
     
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    It opens up 1.6 mil in cap space. Freeland is about to sign a langthy extension, and Koponen sucked in a slightly better league than the Finland league last season.

    Blake, Sergio and Bayless are all better than Koponen right now, and Freeland's contribution coul dbe replaced with S Randolph pretty easily.

    To me this will be a no brainer when it actually happens.
     
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    I was never impressed with Koponen and I to think the 3 we have now are better, so no way he ever fits in. I was actually looking forward to seeing what Freeland could do, but I guess the time has come to cut ties.

    No big loss however and if it frees up money we can use for better pieces, its all good.
     
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    Any reason why KP would let them go now instead of letting them sit and develop more like he does with all our other foreigners? There has got to be a deal going down this year, right? Why else would he need that money right now?
     
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    Do I remember right that both the Koponen and the Freeland picks were bought for about 1-3 million? If so, talk about throwing money out the window!

    I hope they could at least get a future late first round pick for them!
     
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    Potential for what? Sit on the bench and play 20-30 seconds in blowout wins or losses? There isn't a place on the team for them except to practice.
     
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    We get the money back, apparently. Which brings the question, why doesn't Orlando do this with their rights to Fran Vasquez?
     
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    What is your problem? You asked if there were other threads about it. I answered your question, and you just go out and call people names?
    I didn't mean to insult you or anything.

     
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    We don't get the money back.
     
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    Hard to believe that they would be waived, when thier rights could be dealt away as part of a trade or for current or future draft picks....I would think cutting them loose would only be as a last option....
     
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    No I am not at all.
     
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    Why does Mike Rice say we do? Just curious.
     
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    Their rookie scale figures count against our cap number again as of July 1st, and continue to do so until the season begins. Waiving their rights doesn't get us any money back, but it does free up additional cap space that would otherwise not be available.
     
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    I agree... unless the team is attempting to stretch every last dollar of potential salary cap space... what would be the benefit?

    Freeland, in particular, has progressed nicely since the Blazers drafted him, and both players are still extremely young (21 for Koponen, 22 for Freeland). Keeping them overseas and letting them mature for a few more years makes sense.

    Renouncing their rights wouldn't make much sense to me unless the team needs more cap space and/or they are trying to play in the NBA next year and the team doesn't think they're ready/doesn't want to guarantee money/doesn't have a roster spot.

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    I could be wrong, but I think after next season they can sign him to a contract not limited by the rookie scale. That way his buyout (I assume he has one) isn't greater than his salary in the NBA.
     
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    If they're renounced it's because their value in additional cap space is greater than their value to the team or in trade value.
     
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    The cap hold is removed from our available "under the cap" spending, but the money Allen dished out to purchase the draft picks from Phoenix is not refundable.
     
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