Draft strategy: Get Washington's pick!

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    exactly!!!
     
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    Im so glad your not KP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    This is why I love these boards.

    I think exactly the opposite. Haha :cheers:

    Arenas, if healthy, is easily the second best player on our roster, and it's close between he and Brandon. If not healthy all it is is money. Portland will be over the cap for years to come after this year, so it doesn't really hurt the roster.


    Great high risk, high reward guy. Gilbert Arenas puts us in the #1 spot if he is even at 75% of what he was.
     
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    You know, one player whom we might consistently undervalue is Przybilla. Now a lot of GMs (and especially OKC's Sam Presti, who surprised a lot of people with Westbrook and is looking pretty good as a result) use these "special stats" like adjusted +/- or "winshares" or whatever. And in one of them (adjusted +/-) Przybilla led the entire NBA! For a team that might be seriously considering drafting Hasheem Thabeet, but actually cares about stats, shouldn't a player like that be preferable?
     
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    For the next few seasons, yes...but a team like OKC may worry that Przybilla will be exiting his prime just as Durant and Westbrook are entering theirs.
     
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    I don't think WAS is interested in trading their core 3 players (Arenas, Butler & Jamison)....

    I think they want to shed the salary of players like Thomas, James, Songalia & Stevenson to avoid the luxury tax and get something of value back....

    The interesting thing is that both James & Thomas only have 1 year left on their deals, Songalia and Stevenson have two years...

    I think POR could offer a package of picks, players and take some of the contracts WAS wants to unload to get #5...

    The negative is POR would loose cap space...but if POR made this deal before the salary cap goes up in July then they would have use of their mid level exception and any trade exceptions they have acquired prior to that date...so their may be another avenue to take...
     
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    I think they would trade Jamison if they got young CHEAP talent in return. Let's say we took Thomas and Jamison along with the #5 for some combo that works salary wise. Is Jamison willing to back up LMA? Or does he want more time on the floor? Jamison I feel would be a perfect foil for Odom and the Lakeshow.
     
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    Latest report (well - not really: it's probably cobbled together from things we've already seen):

    Here's a thought: we get Thomas from Washington as part of the deal for #5 - and swing him to GState for Ronny Turiaf and change. Then Brandon Roy is happy, despite the fact we're targeting a PG to move him off the ball. And Nate is less unhappy because we get an actual backup PF with our salary cap space, instead of just filling it with RLEC II.

    Now: why would GState do this? Answer, because Turiaf has a LONG contract, whereas Thomas's is expiring. And Turiaf, while a nice energy guy, shouldn't be getting minutes for a team that has Biedrins, Randolph and Brandan Wright. I may be wrong, but I think Turiaf was a Mullin guy (just like Derek Fisher - overpaid ex-Laker) and they might be keen to offload him.

    (Incidentally, is The NBA Trade Machine not working for other people too? For Washington I just get Antawn Jamison...)
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    The Washington Post also claims the Blazers tried to land Caron Butler. So, perhaps a big deal for Butler and the No. 5 pick is in the works - or, perhaps not.

    BNM
     
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    Okay - so we throw in the rights to Freeland. After all, he's another guy who looks great according to the stats (leading the ACB in PER, FWIW)...
     
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    I don't think they would, they have repeatedly said they want to see what thier core 3 players can do when healthy....I think they are insane, but I have read\heard numerous reports reiterating the same thing...

    Now I am sure if they received a tremendous offer then they would trade jamison, but I don't see POR overpaying to get a guy like Jamison....

    Young talent for bad contracts and #5 seems to be the going rate, and I think POR should seriously consider it...
     
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    The Problem is you have to have a follow up deal with OKC or better yet Memphis to get the #2. If we got stuck with #5 and Rubio was gone that trade would look awful. You have to vault up again and be dead certain you get Rubio. That's why this whole thing seems unlikely. Perhaps a three way trade where Memphis ends up with Jamison + picks or someone like Frye, Sergio + #5 for their #2? I don't know. I love the idea of Rubio but you then have to get a vet PG to play in front of him or Nate might explode and take out half of the greater Portland Metro Area. I think that is a real concern and I'm having my wife lay in a bathtub with the baby until I can confirm KP isn't loading us up with more young talent on Thursday.

    P.S. I want Rubio even if our starting PG has to be Bayless, Roy or Rudy. We'll rebuild after Nate explodes...
     

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