Will you be happy with Hinrich?

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Hinrich enough?

  1. Yes indeedy doodly! Defense, good vet PG, we're set!

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  2. Hell no! He's Blake with better PR!

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Suppose the major move of the Summer is getting Kirk Hinrich. Will that be enough for you?
     
    Rastapopoulos, Jun 24, 2009
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    Yup. I would like that. But depends on who we give up for him. I thought he did great against Boston this year. I like him a lot.
     
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    Of the two options, I'm more with Y than N. But I think it would not be the optimal use of the Blake/Outlaw/IDTE combo that we could send out and basically give a team 14M in salary relief.
     
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    I would be happy with Blair + Heinrich, lukewarm on trading out of the draft and only getting Heinrich.
     
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    If we can get Capt. Kirk and a backup PF in the draft for the price of Blake or Travis and some other things with our picks - we will be in a nice place. Yes, I would be happy. It improves our #1 problem (perimeter defense against point-guards) quite significantly, offers a vet to run the offense who can play off the ball next to Roy - and add some post scoring/toughness (hopefully) when LMA is out.

    This with the natural improvement I expect from Oden (1st) and all the other young ones (Rudy, Batum, JB) - would put us in a nice place to push deep into the playoffs.
     
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    depends on what we give up to get him
     
    Wheels, Jun 24, 2009
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    Hinrich has been a target of mine for a long time, so yes, I'd be extremely happy. Not, jumping-out-of-my-chair happy, but walking-around-with-dorky-smile-on-my-face happy for at least a week.

    The only 1s that I'd be happier about are Rubio, Sessions, Harris, Conley.
     
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but the IDTE can only be used on its own to acquire a player. In this case a salary of up to $2.913 mil.... it can not be combined with others players as part of the traded player exception rule for those over the cap.
     
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    Who are we giving up to get him? That would make a difference on how happy I am.
     
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    exactly.. if we give up just Blake.. I'm happy.. also depends on when we do the trade.. if we do it after we sign FA's then I'd be happier.. but then we would have to match salaries to get Kirk.. hmm
     
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    Yes.

    I think I'd prefer Kirk to NOTHING happening, though I don't think I'd exactly be "happy" about it being the primary/only move to improve the roster.

    Ed O.
     
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    Well.....it would be a step above doing nothing. It should help the defense. I suppose having a PG who is actually a playmaker is too much to ask.
     
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    Right, it can't be combined, but it could (for instance) bring us Andray Blatche's or Maurice Evans' salary as a trade add-on, increasing the salary of the player we can get back.

    For instance, Blake + Outlaw today = 8.25M. That means we can trade those two for a player (or group of players) who make between 6.5M and 10.41M, and the new team can conceivably cut them (saving all of the 8.25M) or keep them, and the contracts go to 7.6M next year for a couple of useful players.

    If we add the TE into the mix, the total outgoing is now 11.163M, and can bring back between 8.83M and 14.05M in salaries, of which one of the players has to be less than 2.913, and the new team can have the same savings. Places this could work as an increased benefit are/was:

    Washington...with Blatche, we couldn't have even taken James and Songaila (10.478M)for Outlaw and Blake (to get the #5 pick). But adding in the TE, we could've taken James, Songaila AND Blatche.

    Atlanta, perhaps could've had Blake and Outlaw for Josh Smith (10M). But we could've also used the TE to take back Maurice Evans' contract basically for free.
     
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    I can't think of a single point guard play maker who was sidekick to a superstar wing play maker. If he can defend and shoot the three, then give him to me!
     
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    I think one that playmakes and defends is hard to pry away from other teams. That's all. Maybe we'll get one still in the draft. You never know.
     
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  18. Rastapopoulos

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    Now THIS is more like it...

    (Before you click and get mad, it's an invented trade, not an actual ("actual") rumor. But I don't think it's as crazy as it might seem, given the notorious cheapness and terrible economic state of the other team.)
     
    Rastapopoulos, Jun 24, 2009
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  19. BrianFromWA

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    Well done, Rasta. Even I didn't have the courage to post that one. :)
     
    BrianFromWA, Jun 24, 2009
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  20. Rastapopoulos

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    Hey, you can dream, right? And if anyone dreams of Kirk Hinrich, then I feel sorry for them.
     
    Rastapopoulos, Jun 24, 2009
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