Hinrich telling friends ...

The problem with trying to confirm this type of rumor, when probed, all involved will deny that a friend ever said that.

 

Based on KP comments in the last year, he is not trading Bayless or Fernandez for Hinrich, period.

My guess is that it is Blake + Webster.

 

I doubt it would be Fernandez, although he is probably the ideal backcourt player that Paxson would want to put with Rose and Gordon.

It'd more likely be Bayless. That's not going to get anyone in Chicago excited. I'd rather just keep Hinrich and Thomas than get some guys were going to cut and Bayless back, although I understand the reason for the trade (to clear money under the luxury tax to re-sign Gordon).

Bayless basically has zero trade value, while Rudy Fernandez, would presumably be somewhat hard to obtain. (Although I doubt it'd be impossible to obtain him, since he plays the same position as Roy).

 

No way Bulls take on Webster's contract. If the Bulls are forced to eat Webster's contract, they're going to want to get some value back from the Blazers, more than just half the deal being an expiring contract.

Blake and Outlaw are the most logical.

 

Hinrich and Thomas works for me ... Tyrus might feel a little weird about being LMA's backup considered they were traded for each other in the 2006 draft, but if you want a backup 4 who can block shots, rebound a little and hustle you could do a lot worse than Ty Thomas.

 

i don't think so. blair at the very least is going to be able to rebound the ball in the nba. having one of oden, joel, and blair on the court at a time(and two of them at times) assures that the blazers will be a great rebounding team.

tyrus thomas doesn't offer any assurances.

 

you don't know what you're talking about if you think bayless has zero trade value.

but at this point he probably does have more value to the blazers than he does elsewhere, so i'd be surprised to see him moved.

 

Webster's contract is very reasonable - less than half of Hinrich's.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9132

 

The guy fell to 11th in the draft last year, and averaged 4.7 points on 48.7 TS%. The guy has zero trade value, or next to zero trade value.

Kevin Pritchard might value Bayless highly, but other GM's likely see Bayless as nothing more than a throw in prospect....a minor trade sweetener if you will.

 

he does have value. you can't look at his stats that is just dumb. he would be coming in to his second year of college right now. he was burried on the bench. im sure there are alot of teams wanting to get there hands on him.

 

and i'm telling you that you are clueless. but i do agree that bayless has more value to the blazers than other teams because they have a better idea of what he offers so it is unlikely that he gets moved.

the numbers aren't that relevant. look at his numbers during the stretch of the season when he was actually getting consistent minutes and they are much better.

 

There might be a lot of teams that would want to get their hands on him, but not a lot of teams will want to give up anything that has much value to get him.

 

Yeah, I'm sure the U.S. select team wouldn't want him back after that first year performance. Oh wait . . .

 

well the 1st problem would be matching the salarys. why wouldn't a team struggling money wise drop a vet and bring in a young pg in return?

i mean he was a 11th pick in the draft just last year. there's value there.

 

The Blazers are already a fantastic rebounding team. TT will be a better defender, at least initially and probably in perpetuity than Blair. I would think that Blair is a better fit for Portland - but as far as Chicago is concerned, they save more money if TT comes out.

 

I got to agree on the Bayless being nothing more than a sweetner to a trade. He does have potential ( I would think every GM knows that) . . . but he is unproven and may stay that way.

(From another team's perspective) how many unproven third(even second) string PG would you consider a key part of a trade?

 

TT is not a Nate guy, or a KP culture guy.

 

My hope is

Blake and Travis and #22 for Kirk and the #22 AND THAT IS IT (I prefer to send Webs, but doubt they will take him)

works CBA wise.. we do not want extra players. We are already helping them resign Gordan.. no need to take on TT as well. They can get $8.25 mil in a salary dump already if they choose

 

Not to muddy the waters, but Allen shot a paltry 40% on Field goals and 35% on 3s, had the lowest offensive rating of his career in a playoff series (110) and was only able to score 18 points per game in 40 minutes ... For Ray Allen that is fucking god awful. Was that all Hinrich? Probably not, but you have to at least give partial credit no?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/allenra02.html