Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) Yea I posted it in the crazy rumor thread. I guess it will probably need it's own thread though if it comes through, so we should probably keep this one open.
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) And as Ed O. said in the other thread... they're probably not going to pay Hedo $10 mil, along with Vince's salary and Rashard's salary. Turkoglu is officially on the market.
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) I won't feel safe until he's OFF the market and somewhere other than Portland... (Meanwhile, Courtney Lee is thinking "Man, you miss ONE alley oop...")
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) Their owner said he was willing to go into luxury tax territory to keep Hedo around. I don't know why that would suddenly change.
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) this deal does nothing for ORL unless they find a way to keep Hedo...even then..Jameer, Dwight, Hedo, Shard, VC....those guys only have ONE ball..I could smell chemistry issues
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) Because I doubt you can play Rashard, Hedo and VC together for very long and paying them that much money would be really dumb.
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) Well if they want to pay $60-65 million to just four guys on the team.. then more power to them. But that's a boatload for a team that was concerned about paying the luxury tax just a few weeks ago.
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) How many dollars is a championship worth? I don't think it was that long ago wasn't there a baseball team where the owner stacked on the talent and payroll for one year so they could win it all and he could put the franchise on the market? I think it was in Florida....
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) Vince was definitely brought in to replace Turkoglu. -Pop
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) Orlando needs to show Dwight the organization is committed to winning, and apparently this must be one way to show it (this and keeping Turk) I understand the Magic willing to go over the cap to keep Turk . . . but to keep Turk and bring on Carter puts them way over the cap and seems like drastic change from their money conscious ways. But to just bring in Vince and let Turk go seems like an odd way to allocate salary money . . .
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) A lot of times, late in stars careers, if they haven't got a ring, they start ring chasing and doing whatever is necessary to get there. I can see Vince taking a back seat if necesary in order to get a ring.
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) Lee is the best player in this trade. I think this is a bad trade for the Magic.
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) Courtney Lee's PER last year: 10.8 regular season, 9.3 in the playoffs. Vince Carter's PER last year: 19.3. It might be an overstatement to say Courtney Lee is a scrub... but then again it might not be. He's going to be 24 in October, so he is not exactly a young player, and he's CERTAINLY no VC. Ed O.
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) Lee may not be real young, but he did well for a rookie. That's a big adjustment no matter what age you are and he'll get better.
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) 10.8 PER is not doing "well". It sucks. That he was even worse in the playoffs is remarkable. For a 20 year-old kid that sort of pathetic production is more excusable to me than a guy who's more physically mature. Ed O.
Re: Vinsanity to ORL (almost done says WoJo) So how does his PER show his defensive ability? It doesn't. His ability to guard a variety of perimiter players cannot be stated by the stats. I also really don't care about the state because I watched the guy and he is a pretty good player. Star? Nope. Good player though.
