Rudy may want out? (MERGED)

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  1. cdub503

    cdub503 Well-Known Member

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    Im thinking that its gonna be a rotation of (if we get rid of outlaw/blake for something dunno what)

    Roy/bayless/rudy
    Rudy/bayless/martell
    Batum/Hedo/Martell/Cunningham
    Aldridge/Hedo/Pendergraph/Cunningham
    Beast/VanillaBeast

    there will be minutes for him for sure
     
  2. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    sorry I didnt understand that post.
     
  3. cdub503

    cdub503 Well-Known Member

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    sorry lol i am tired :( ill decipher!

    I think this is a rumor

    We could have a Three man Rotation of roy rudy bayless (its been said before but re bringing it up)

    Trade these guys for a back up PF or Picks or something we could use?

    QFT


    better? i woke up at 530 this morning for work i am a weeeee bit tired
     
  4. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I understand Fernandez's frustration, but I already considered him trade bait before this. I don't think he can be an effective point guard and he's too small for small forward. He's quite locked in as a shooting guard and there doesn't seem to be any plans to ever shift Roy from shooting guard. Unless Fernandez was willing to embrace a backup position long-term (and not a starter-in-reality role like Ginobili, who has always been the Spurs' best shooting guard and gets the lion's share of the minutes at the position), he wasn't going to fit on Portland long-term.

    I'd love it if Fernandez, perhaps in a package with other players like Bayless and/or Outlaw, could net a good, young-ish point guard. Devin Harris would, of course, be the dream but he's probably not available.

    Anyway, it should be interesting to see how Pritchard plays this.
     
  5. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    While I don't want to trade Rudy, I wouldn't hesitate to do so if it lands us a top flight PG in return in a mega deal. While it may be a pipe dream. New Orleans now has the highest payroll in the league - and the poorest fan base and a cash strapped owner. If there is any chance at all of prying away Chris Paul, I'd give them anyone, and everyone not named Roy, Aldridge or Oden - and I'd take back one, or two of their big, bad contracts in return. We have tons of cheap/underpriced talent, many of them on short contracts, and the cap space to make a lopsided trade. If NO is desparate to dump salary, we are one of their best chances.

    Since that's not likely to happen, I think we should keep Rudy and run the triangle offense. We will have the players with the right skills and high basketball IQs to properly run the triangle offense. Phil Jackson, especially during the Lakers' 3-peat, did a good job of running the triangle with two shooting guards (Kobe and Ron Harper) and no real PG. Perhaps, we could do the same. Of course, we'd probably have to play zone on defense most of the time, but why not give it a shot? That way Roy, Hedo and Rudy would all be actively involved in the offense and no one would feel left out. Plus, it would allow us to have our best five players on the court together.

    BNM
     
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    As much as I love his talent and upside, I'd give up Aldridge to land Paul. Paul is one of the several greatest point guard talents ever...Aldridge has to be on the table for a player like that.
     
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    Wow Canzano is really taking this Rudy thing and running with it.
     
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    Is he siding with Fernandez or the team?
     
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    Aldridge would be tricky. They wouldn't want to trade for him unless they agreed to an extension number in advance. Execute trade, then Aldridge signs extension with them before season starts.

    In order to do that, you have to approach Aldridge early in the process. If trade doesn't happen, Aldridge as the sensitve soul that he is, may not sign the extension with US.

    I don't think we can pull that off.
     
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    How do we know this isn't just a bunch of made up shit.
     
  11. Tince

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    It's very possible it's taken way out of context, for sure.
     
  12. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    But, Aldridge is due for a big contract extension. The only reason NO will EVER trade Chris Paul will be to dump salary. I'm not sure if they will want to take back a guy that will cost them almost as much as Paul to keep.

    Of course, if we immediately sign LaMarcus to a big extension, he would be considerably less attractive to NO.

    Obviously, with Roy off the table, there is no chance of NO getting back anything close to equal talent. It would be a pure salary dump. They'd get back a bunch of guys with cheap, short term contracts - enough to still have a halfway decent team, and could also unload a 2nd big contract (Chandler or Peja) in the process and be well on their way to rebuilding (and perhaps, even profitability).

    Again, it's a pipe dream, but NO is hurting for cash. They tried to give away Chandler last season and that didn't work out - and giving him away would have definitely made them a worse team. So, they are clearly not in a win-at-all-costs mode. They are basically in a dump-salary-or-go-bankrupt-or-sell-the-team mode.

    BNM
     
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    Re: Rudy may want out?

    Yeah, I'm just going down this route. Sucks.
     
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    Aldridge has already been contacted by the Blazers about an extension. Reading today's Oregonian, it's obvious he wants to stay here, and it's obvious the Blazers want him here. I post this because I think Chris Paul is a pipe dream at this point. My opinion may change next February depending on what happens in NO next season. Of course, at that point, Roy and LMA will already be locked into an extension, and last I checked, David West plays PF for the Hornets.
     
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    People forget about CP3 we are not going to get him. How many times do people bring this up. NO will never trade him they would fold up the team first. Even if they did there are a lot of teams that would give up a lot for CP3. CP3 is staying in NO until the team folds!!!!!!!!:crazy:
     
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    Canzano is in favor of getting Hedo, and is telling Rudy to chill out.
     
  17. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Rudy has not posted anything to deny it on either of his two blogs.
     
  18. Eastoff

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    Rudy was passing from a wing though. In a true point guard position, you don't get down that low for the easy pass to Oden. But I do agree, he did have the best pases to Oden by far this season.
     
  19. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    http://trailblazerscentercourt.blogspot.com/2009/06/reason-for-offseason.html

    So did he just change his dream last night?
     
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    Perhaps that's also why he took less of them than anyone in the league (other than Kleiza, Battier, Posey and Batum). It's what kept his eFG% high.

    Shot Att. eFG% Ast'd Blk'd Pts
    Jump 84% .520 80% 1% 7.1
    Close 11% .643 58% 6% 1.2
    Dunk 4% .963 85% 4% 0.7
    Tips 0% .333 0% 0% 0.0
    Inside16% .720 67% 5% 1.8
     

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