He should be in consideration.He is putting up over 18 points and 10 rebounds for his career. He also plays some great defense to go along with his offensive talent.Those numbers are amazing considering he has never had the offense run through him.
He is a great player but very underrated. No one notices him at all but he is a top player in the league. He's overshadowed by Amare and Nash being there and with all the Lakers fans obsessed with Kobe. He is 27 or 28 so these next couple of years will be his best.
Arizona is back! Good to have you back man...As for the title, Its to early in his carrer to judge that.
Hell no. He stuggles to make an all star team. At this point he needs to either win DPOY or two, or win a couple rings.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jhowardfan @ Apr 20 2006, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he wont be a HOF player, he doesnt have the numbers to justify that.</div>Yeah... usually need a championship too.
Usually but not always.There are two ways to get into the Hall.1)Lead your team to an NBA Championship and have a great all-around career2)Be a dominant player in your era, lead your team and post monster numbers.Guys like Reggie Miller, John Stockton, Jason Kidd, Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Allen Iverson will get into the HOF even though none of those guys have won a title.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 21 2006, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Usually but not always.There are two ways to get into the Hall.1)Lead your team to an NBA Championship and have a great all-around career2)Be a dominant player in your era, lead your team and post monster numbers.Guys like Reggie Miller, John Stockton, Jason Kidd, Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Allen Iverson will get into the HOF even though none of those guys have won a title.</div>Yeah, not Jason though? I think he was way too short lived.
Are you kidding? Jason Kidd led his team to the Finals' twice.He is a great leader and he is one of the greatest ever at running an offense. I think he is the 3rd greatest pg ever behind Stockton and Magic personally. He is a defensive beast and a great rebounder.How does he not get into the HOF?
Statistics have nothing to do with being a great pointn guard. Like I said before, Jason was one of the best ever at running a teams' offense. He played spectacular defense, he rebounded well. He scored well on occasion and isnt as bad a shooter as some people make him out to be.Also, John Stockton is a lifetime 13 and 10. Those arent great stats. I guess he wont make the HOF