if we sign Turk which seems imminent now, our bench might be the worse in the league. why? we will have no money to sign anyone worthwhile except maybe a scrub or a perennial underachiever trying to prove himself. here's what our bench looks like right now Pg: Roko Sg: Douby Sf: to be determined PF: Evans, Hump C; Pops, Bryant therefore, colangelo is banking on a injury free season from the starters, loose logic with caledron's well documented injury woes and we're also banking on our starters playing big minutes. remember how bosh was spent after november? this looks like a repeat of last season except he wont have a coach to scapegoat
Fuck I hated the latter half of last summer, watching us round out the bench with utter scrubs. If that's how BC decides to complete this roster, I'll be pissed. He better have some trades or legitimate avenues to fill the bench with quality players. I don't need an '06 bench, but it sure as hell better be NBA quality.
Could we sign-and-trade or trade the rights to AP, Delfino, and Marion to various teams for some sort of returning asset, before we sign Hedo? I'm not sure how we'd do that without adding too much salary (I'm assuming we'd have to trade a player like Humphries or Marcus Banks somehow). But if Hedo's committed to us, I'm sure he'd be willing to wait for us to clear out some space while getting something back before officially signing him.
no because they would count against the cap and that would make hedo impossible. although, presumably we renounce them and sign them for the veteran min but delfino and parker would go back to europe before they would settle for that. and we get nothing back for banks; hump im unsure about especially coming back from a serious injury. btw, it looks like we need to renounce parker, marion, delfino, douby and pops, bryant contract has already been guaranteed. so we kinda traded parker, marion, delfino, douby and pops for hedo
Yes we can, but we cannot bring back any salary in those trades, so it'd have to be for picks or cash. Also, Douby's rights must also be renounced in order to sign Hedo. But on NBA.com, it said Toronto might still be able to bring in Delfino, but it didn't share the details.
Could we sign-and-trade AP, Marion, Delfino to a team for a trade exemption, and then use those trade exemptions to trade for actual bench depth? Maybe that's how we round out our bench.
Rule that one out. A trade exemption still counts against the cap, so we'd still be taking back salary in any sign-and-trade. I'm back to being utterly puzzled.
He goes on to suggest ways they can spread around the MLE to improve their depth (Dahntay Jones, Matt Barnes, James Singleton, etc.) Source: Tom Chisholm at TSN.com
i dont give much credence to a dude who writes for tsn.ca. plus, every reputable journalist has said we dont have access to the mle, even a partial mle after the turk signing. and there is no way we parlay banks contract into anything; unless of course u tie into a deal involving the core.
I think that part of the article was wishful thinking, on his part. As a whole though, I think it was a well written article. That tidbit about them being against the salary cap and not the luxury tax (like last season) is significant and I think will play a part in explaining what BC eventually is able to do.
The only teams who have MLE to spend are those who are above the cap. The writer doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
He's wrong, very wrong. Teams under the cap must renounce ALL of their exceptions in order to use their cap space. You either get the cap space (which you just used all of on Hedo), or the exceptions - not both. So, not only do you lose the MLE, you lose the bi-annual exception and any traded player exceptions. The only way you can fill out your roster now is through 2:1 trades, or minimum salary contracts. You renounced almost half your team to sign Hedo. You no longer hold the rights to the players you renounced. So, you can't trade them, and you can't offer any of them more than the minimum salary. Your bench is actually going to be worse than last year - and that was pretty bad. I don't mean to come across as a bitter Portland fan who lost the bidding war (fair and square) for Hedo, but I think Bryan Colangelo just screwed two teams. He screwed Portland by denying us one piece that could have put us closer to contention, and he screwed Toronto by depleting your roster and leaving no flexibility for filling out your bench. You guys needed a lot more than one piece to be contenders (or even make the play-offs). By renouncing so many players to overpay Hedo, Colangelo has all but insured you won't get any more useful pieces to fill out an already very thin roster. And, if you miss the play-offs again, Boch is probably gone. That leaves you with 4 years and almost $50 million owed to a 31-year old role player (a VERY good role player, but not the kind of player who can lead you into contention by himself). If Bosh leaves, instead of being an asset, Hedo's contract will make him a roadblock to rebuilding. I wish you guys well, but I really think Colangelo screwed you guys over big time. This move smacks of desperation and too little too late. It won't make you contenders this year (especially with an incredibly weak bench and other question marks in your staring line-up at center and SG, poor rebounding and weak defense), and will make it that much harder to rebuild after Bosh leaves. BNM
