Final call what's YOUR offseason plan post Hedo-gate?

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You are KP what plan do you go for?

  1. Stand pat and wait for Trade Deadline / Draft day 2010 and use capspace then.

    7 vote(s)
    11.5%
  2. Acquire expiring contracts for 2010 summer (LBJ/Bosh/Wade etc.)

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  3. "Lop-sided" trade for veteran SF or PG.

    22 vote(s)
    36.1%
  4. Attempt to sign Josh Childress or Marvin Williams

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Attempt to sign Andre Miller or Jason Kidd

    6 vote(s)
    9.8%
  6. Attempt to sign Ramon Sessions

    7 vote(s)
    11.5%
  7. Attempt to sign Paul Millsap or David Lee

    3 vote(s)
    4.9%
  8. Attempt to sign Lamar Odom

    7 vote(s)
    11.5%
  9. Your exact plan I-dog!

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  10. and now for an option that reads "Something Completely Different"

    6 vote(s)
    9.8%
  1. Idog1976

    Idog1976 Well-Known Member

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    Mine is one I've said in the Sessions thread I'm just going to post the two trades, with one being a sign and trade for Sessions and Kurt Thomas giving up Blake and Outlaw + picks and other considerations.
    The sign and trade for Sessions is a very real possibility because as PtldPlatypus said:

    If we do that we can force a sign and trade as Milwaukee doesn't want Sessions to walk for nothing. That's when we try and get Kurt Thomas PF/C as well. Milwaukee gets a young 3/4 swing man and a PG to control the point along with Ridnour and Jennings plus rights to Euro's, picks and cash. Not ideal but better then Sessions walking.

    The other is to trade Joel or Rudy for Battier. Houston needs a Center badly and also needs a SG to replace T-Mac soon (likely to be traded). You could trade Rudy in a "lop sided trade" for Battier but that would use up our cap space now. I am trying to get maximum bang for our buck and preserve flexibility (retain assets and cap space) I am going with Joel as the salaries match and we might be able to get them to throw in Chuck Hayes so we had a serviceable 3rd string PF for some depth in our front line (never a bad thing).

    You then get a lineup of:

    PG Sessions/Bayless
    SG Roy/Rudy
    SF Battier/Batum
    PF LMA/Hayes/Thomas
    C Oden/LMA/Thomas

    What's more you would preserve the vaunted cap space for a lop-sided trade at the trade deadline or on draft day 2010.

    Having considered most of the possibilities that is my "final answer" for what to do post Hedo.

    You're KP what do you do?

    P.S. feel free to critique mine but the point of this post is not to just elicit possibilities, but rather to find out what specific plan people would go for.
     
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  2. BClutch

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    Keep the cap space, wait into the season for teams who are overpaying and not doing well to become ready to dump salary, make a lopsided trade.
     
  3. Idog1976

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    That probably goes under option #1 on the poll.
     
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    There are actually several viable options listed, but I will stick with what I have been saying all along - PG! PG! PG! Sign the best available.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Andre Miller and a starting SF:

    Tay Prince, Thad Young, Lamar Odom, Josh Childress, ect.
     
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    Mike Miller would be a better acquisition that Hedo. He's a much better shooter, better rebounder, and he's just as good a ball handler.

    How could we get him? Utah needs a team with cap space to clear Boozer's salary from their books (otherwise, they are looking at a 82 million dollar salary). The Wizards could really use a tough PF in their starting lineup. Dealing Miller for Boozer would really balance out their roster.

    Miller to Portland, Boozer to Washington, Utah clears his roster off their books and signs Millsap.
     
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    Ramon Sessions all day everyday. That's my #1 priority. He could transform this team, not only for the next couple of seasons, but beyond. After that, I would move onto acquiring a vet starting SF depending on how Sessions would be acquired. We could go outright and sign Marion or Odom if we wanted to if we had the money and Sessions was a guy acquired through a trade.
     
  8. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I plan to drink Heavily (OK, more heavily) until trainting camp starts ... depending on how the season goes I might end up in rehab. :wink:
     
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    I take it you chose "Something Completely Different". LOL
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Nice plan - I like both Sessions and Thomas and the Bucks might go for that, particularly as Blake and Outlaw's deals expire at the end of the season.

    Of course, that might make them extra valuable to hold on to till the trade deadline...
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    HAH!!

    I'm not sure if you were being intentionally funny, but I just coughed up some New Belgium 1554 through my nose (I'm hard at work on my off-season regimen).
     
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    A number of these options would use our cap space to provide value to the team, they would gain us assets. I would attempt them in the following order;

    -Sign UFA Odom
    -Sign RFA Sessions
    -Sign RFA Lee
    -Sign RFA Millsap
    -Call other GM's to see if we can do a lopsided trade bringing in an overpriced player or good player on a cash strapped team
    -Sign RFA Childress
    -Sign RFA Williams
    -Wait until the season begins to make lopsided trade from a struggling team during the season
    -If cap space is still unused by the trade deadline accept the best offer, this may be a marginal talent or a salary dump with draft picks.



    Overpriced players I would target in trades based on talent, availability, and salary;
    Luol Deng
    Kirk Hinrich
    Tayshaun Prince
    Richard Hamilton
    Corey Maggette
    Shane Battier
    Baron Davis
    Andrew Bogut
    Tyson Chandler
    Mickael Pietrus
    Amare Stoudemire
    Jason Richardson
    Andrei Kirilenko
    Carlos Boozer
    Gilbert Arenas
    Antawn Jamison
     
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    What about this for an idea. Sorry I started a new thread with this idea but read this one after. I think this an appropriate place to discuss this.

    Since we have made a lot of trades with Phoenix in the past and as Kerr admitted they are in rebuild mode why not do a sign and trade for Nash and a resigned G Hill (to a 2 year contract). We could trade them both Blake, Outlaw (both expiring contracts at years end) and then use the remaining capspace we have to offset the difference. Phoenix would do this to save major $$$$ and get a head start on the process. Portland does it to get 2 vets who are solid and to bridge the youth gap. In 2 years time both players ride off into the sunset and players like Batum and Bayless have matured and are ready to take over. If this is not enough we can add Freeland and Kop in the trade to give them some prospects, maybe even our 1st next year. I'm just trying to come up with an idea. Any thoughts?
     
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    Bogut is intriguing, but only if you traded him onward to Houston for Battier and one of Landry/Hayes. Atawn Jamison is not a bad thought and would make it reasonable to trade Joel.

    So would you right now go for Odom over Sessions thinking about likelihood of the signing as well as pay off?
     
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    I voted for holding on to the capspace and gambling that midseason deals will become available from teams hemorrhaging cash and cringing at the lux tax line coming down in 2010-11, but I like a couple of the other options as well. Sessions Childress and Millsap all seem intriguing if available. Acquiring Millsap would allow the club to deal Joel (who I think would be a very attractive player to a lot of teams) and give LA more minutes guarding Centers. I think a Bigs rotation of PM Greg and LaMarcus would be great... any combo of the 3 would be effective.

    STOMP
     
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    I had some interest in the rumor we heard a week before the draft. Trade Blake, Outlaw and our cap space for Deng and Hinrich. Hinrich is a defense upgrade over Blake and Deng when healthy is a great SF. IMO this move will improve our defense, thus keep Greg and Joel out of foul trouble from poor defense. I know with Dengs health last year it probably won't be popular, but I really don't like our options in free agency.

    If I was to select another option, it would be trade the cap space with a player to get a great player.
     
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    Interesting idea. Phoenix is going to try to get Bayless of course and that can't be part of the trade or we are in win now mode as far as PG goes. Not a bad idea to get Nash and Hill. I do think you are putting your eggs in the Bayless basket if you do that though.
     
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    I'd target Odom for a combination of reasons:

    He is the best free agent still available with a diverse set of skills at a similar talent level to Hedo.
    He is unrestricted.
    An offer would at the least force the Lakers to pay him more possibly limiting them from signing an MLE player in future seasons.
    If he did join our team he would be a gain for us and a subtraction to LA. Since we are in the same conference and they have such a talented roster, I view LA as our biggest obstacle to titles during the next 6 seasons.


    This would be a no-brainer Pau Gasol type of acquisition. I don't believe Devin is available unless we include one of our big 3, which is not happening anytime soon. Devin is clearly the best player on his team, playing on a reasonable contract and an All-star, he isn't available for spare parts.
     

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