Portland trying to get PAUL MILLSAP!

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  1. alex42083

    alex42083 Thanks Brandon

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    F'ing whoo hoo! Just saw this news. Let's go get Millsap!!! Guy's a beast
     
  2. blazerboy30

    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

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    I think you misread something or didn't understand.

    It would be:

    Losing Pryz for Millsap AND somebody like Hinrich. (if we did indeed trade Pryz)
     
  3. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Typo ... those damn Euros, they all look the same to me.
     
  4. MAS RipCity

    MAS RipCity Mercy, Mercy

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    This is true, but if he opts out next year, we'll be screwed..find replacements now
     
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    I didn't know just using bullet points would create all of that!


    I'm going to have to start posting bullet points on TPS reports in the OT forum while at work.
     
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    RoyToy Clown Town

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    Hinrich...why won't his name just go away already.

    Why are the Blazers screwed if he opts out?
     
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    true, but I think it's fair to say that game 1 aside, the rebounding matchup was fairly even in that series when it had been a strength throughout the series. Adding Millsap could turn that back into an advantage for Portland, though it does depend on what happens with Prz.
     
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    LOTBfan dangling chad

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    Unless he demands starting minutes (I am not sure that he does) and assuming we improve, I don't see Billa walking as long as we are willing to pay him. Did I miss some news of him being dissatisfied with his role in an upward shooting team?
     
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    Where have you been, New York is clearing cap space to sign Pryzbilla!
     
  10. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    Joel was the heart and soul of this team last year. I would hope that the end result of this would not be to trade Joel, unless it's for a very good PG. Kirk Hinrich in this case doesn't qualify. Anyways, we need a true Center to back up Oden, in case shit happens.
     
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    Whaaat? Millsap is a great low-post player and an awesome rebounder. He takes 67% of his shots inside, like a real PF should....Outlaw is a wing, and takes only 19% of his shots inside.

    Also, 61% of Outlaws inside shots were assisted, compared to 67% for Millsap, so there is not that much of a difference. We don't really need him to play multiple positions anyway, we already have good players at those other positions.

    A guy can only play one position at a time, what really matters is how well he plays it. I think Paul Millsap a much better player than Outlaw.
     
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    I don't know why a team would ever want to break up a center duo like Oden and Przybilla. Makes no sense.
     
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    My thoughts....I know you have all been waiting.


    Milsap makes us a lot better. There, I got that out of the way.

    Now my concerns....NOT COMPLAINTS.

    Thought #1. No way in holy hell that Greg, LaMarcus, Joel and Milsap would all be happy with minutes this season. I think MIlsap was honest when he said he would be amicable. By the way, that is not the same as happy. But I think he is thinking 30-32 minutes behind LaMarcus and Greg. With 96 available, and if you guesstimate Aldridge at 35, Greg at 31 and Milsap at 30 that leaves 0 for Joel.


    Thought #2. I think this is Portland's way of forcing Utah to include them in a deal to get Hinrich personally. I mean what better fall back plan if it fails than to end up with Milsap?

    Thought #3. Joel might be on the move. He is a damn good center, and teams would probably like someone like him. I could see a deal of Joel, Travis and maybe Blake for an upgrade at PG and another body. Or Joel, Travis and Rudy for Ridnour and Redd? Just thinking outoud, don't dwell on those.


    The signing of Milsap would be a great move by Portland, but not if they did nothing else. The one really big issue for this team was perimeter defense, and until it's addressed we won't move forward. Kudos to KP if this is true.
     
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    Maybe we should just keep adding centers? We don't need anybody to run the offense. That's highly overrated.
     
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    Two is not an excessive number of centers.

    barfo
     
  16. Idog1976

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    For all the people saying it's madness to trade Przybilla, I just want to say you vastly underrate Aldridge at the C because as others have pointed out in this thread and I've said in others he had Frye/Outlaw as the other big. That meant he got no help on defense and no help on the boards. With Paul Millsap at the 4 and LMA at the 5 we can defend most 2nd unit's in the league. I wouldn't mind getting another backup center but as has also been pointed out we do have Pendergraph who may be a rookie and 2nd rounder but he is also 6'10.

    At the end of the day the impact Joel has on the team does not equal the impact of Millsap + Battier or Hinrich or (please god) all three. I love Joel and wouldn't be sad to see him get a ring here. Realistically though we will be way over the cap next year and won't be able to offer Joel what he can get elsewhere (not even close). We might as well trade him now before he goes and get value for him while we can. I think Joel for Battier followed up by Outlaw & Blake (throwing in Rudy seems to steep for Kirk) + cash and picks for Hinrich would be an off season for the ages.

    Other then just saying that we need a back up center, why do you guys think Joel is more important then giving the team the ability to upgrade a starter at SF, PG or both?
     
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    I wonder what Quick meant by his first sentence:
    what trades?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    How would you feel about a straight swap of Joel for Battier? then maybe moving Blake and Trav for a guy like Hinrich? (not at all sure the Bulls would go for that).

    Hinrich/Bayless/Mills
    Roy/Rudy
    Battier/Batum/Martell (if he's ever able to play again)
    LMA/Milsap/Cunningham
    Oden/Pendergraph/<some-other-fill-in-the-blank-warm-body>
     
  19. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I like the way you're thinking!
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'm guessing that he's referring to the Bobcats hanging up on KP when he tried to move just Travis Outlaw in a lopsided deal for Gerald Wallace :devilwink:
     

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