REPORT: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

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  1. Crimson the Cat

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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    PHX isn't going to give up all that for Boozer (1-year cut and run). They'd want something more long-term than that, IMO.
     
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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    separate transactions I would suppose

    Millsap by FA

    Outlaw for Hinrich in lopsided trade (I guess) but think it would take Outlaw and Blake
     
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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    Sign Millsap with our cap space.

    Trade Blake and Outlaw for Hinrich.
     
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  4. RickyRubio

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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    No you can't. You cannot change an offer sheet once it is submitted.
     
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  5. Crimson the Cat

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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    Per Larry Coon.
     
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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    Blake is still on that roster.

    I don't really think that we could JUST move Outlaw and get both Millsap and Hinrich... either from a talent or salary cap perspective.

    Ed O.
     
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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    Ha! Our highest paid player will be the 3rd or 4th best (depending on how Oden does) on the team.

    Though fewer minutes for Outlaw is a bargain at any price.
     
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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    :twothumbs:

    :headbang:
     
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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    My bad with Blake in there.
     
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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    My bad. I didn't read it closely enough.
     
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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    Man if we get Hinrich + Millsap... I will be :ghoti::ghoti::ghoti::ghoti::ghoti::ghoti::ghoti:
     
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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    My original post got burried, but according to Coon:

    Link
     
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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    I think MN actually was even MORE devious... they put in some sort of payment if a certain number of games in the regular season were played in the state of MN... something like that. Something that the Seahawks literally could NOT match.

    Hutchinson fucked up by not letting the Seahawks match the spirit of the deal. The team would have been much better off these past few years with him, rather than Nate Burleson, who they essentially spent the Hutch money on. I would bet that Steve would have been happier winning in Seattle, too...

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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    Utah's perspective: to gain an asset such as Travis Outlaw
    Millsap's perspective: to help his old and/or current team as long as he doesn't lose any money
    Portland's perspective: to lessen the cap blow by including an outgoing player and/or lessen the first year salary amount (since Utah could sign-and-trade him with annual increases of 10%)
     
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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    That's not how I understand it. Are you sure that Toronto has it? Or, are you sure that they never renounced it?
     
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  16. RickyRubio

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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    I stand corrected.
     
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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    They definitely have it according to Hollinger. If I recall correctly, the MLE only has to be renounced when a team is about to sign someone with their cap space. At the moment, Portland hasn't signed anyone yet, so technically, they still have their MLE. Toronto was able to keep the MLE because they got Hedo in a trade with ORL, they didn't sign him upfront.
     
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    Per Larry Coon:

    I believe Toronto was not under the cap prior to the new year starting (July 1st) due to their cap holds. They never needed to renounce the mid-level.
     
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    Re: Millsap offer official now. Sent to Utah.

    Not to take this too off topic, but Ruskell fucked up by putting the transition tag on Hutch in the first place. Should have Franchised him right out of the gate. We still haven't recovered from Hutch's departure.

    As far as the poison pill goes, the Minny deal was WAY more devious, and then we did it right back to them for Burleson. I think Minny made out better in that deal. :)
     
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    Were they?
     
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