Ugh [forehead slap] ... sometimes I hate this city

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  1. SodaPopinski

    SodaPopinski Tigers love pepper

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    Why not just fix up Alpenrose? I've ridden it many times. It's shabby, but it's still decent.
     
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    I'd rather they put an indoor dirt track in there. Now that would be cool. Soccer field in the middle is very cool though.
     
  4. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    That is a stupid, stupid plan.
     
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    Colonel Ronan Continue...?

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    I think it's a good idea. Can't you run on the outside too?
     
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    Rodolfo Double Stamp>Triple Stamp

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    Wait a second, where does the starbucks go? ;)
     
  7. SodaPopinski

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    After the Blazers killed the minor league baseball deal, I would be shocked if this was their backup plan for the MC.
     
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    yakbladder Grunt Third Class

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    Yes, because we don't have enough @#$#@$ soccer fields. Which is the reason this whole situation started...
     
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    I don't understand the soccer field in the middle. I honestly don't think that would be part of the final design, nor do I think they'd even have any use for it. Nobody is going to pay to watch some crappy indoor soccer game sunken below a sloped bike track. Awesome.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So you hate the city because some guy thinks it would be a good idea to build a bike track?

    barfo
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I hope the city doesn't agree to this. It seems to be no better than tearing it down and building a new stadium there.
     
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    It's a figure of speech relating to how it bothers me that we seem to bypass smart business decisions in lieu of entertaining uniquely "Portland" things (like the city's bike culture). Don't be surprised if this idea gains traction at City Hall.
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    none that will hold MLS.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    So they can have a kick ass place for Roller Derby?

    If that's what they want to turn the arena into, how is that better than a new baseball stadium?

    Oh yeah...it's not.
     
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    a baseball stadium costs a whole hell of a lot more than putting a velodrome inside an existing structure. But yeah, same thing.
     
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    It also costs a lot more to build a restaurant than it does to have a lemonade stand on your corner. But which one is going to make more money?

    Not to mention the baseball stadium already has a willing owner, a willing tenant, and a willing facility manager.

    What is this? The Velodrome of Dreams? If we build it, they will come?
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think a lot of people don't want to let the city grow up as a big league (potential) town.

    Building a AAA stadium is cheaper than building a soccer stadium. And as much as I don't necessarily want the Beavers to leave, a AAA stadium is hopefully a stepping off point for MLB team.

    And whats the point in playing in a HUGE AAA stadium (PGE Park) if they don't draw near the crowds? Chances are good they'll draw the crowds at MLS much easier, and it can be fixed up a bit too (and make Viking games much more crowd friendly).

    Yes, you run the risk of the MLS team leaving, but sitting down and doing nothing about anything is exactly why some 40 years *after* we got the Blazers, we still only HAVE the Blazers.

    Plus, if they do it right, a AAA stadium (with decent parking, etc) can attract concerts or events. I wouldn't go to PGE to a concert because parking sucks crap.
     
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    Agree with almost everything you said. I am a HUGE proponent of the MLS renovation for 2011 at PGE Park, and I have been promoting a beautiful new park for the Beavs within striking distance of downtown.

    The one point of contention is that there is no way we are getting a MLB team in the near future. Bring a couple more Fortune 500 companies to the area, sprinkle in some other companies that employ around 1000 people, and that's a start. Otherwise we don't have nearly the corporate support to make the numbers pencil out.
     
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    Make it a big ass homeless shelter.
     

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