Interesting (Troubling?) Quote From Tod Leiweke

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    Quick directly quoted Roy's agent in today's Oregonian saying that Brandon is "frustrated", and relayed that Roy wants 5 years, and the Blazers are offering 4 years. Unless Roy's agent is flat-out lying, in print, with his name attached, I don't see at all how this is good business considering Hedo F**KING Turkoglu was wined, dined, and offered 5 years.
     
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    Re: Interesting (Troubling?) Quote From Tod Keiweke

    Why would Myers be lying about Roy wanting 5 years? Hell, when your All-Star player has to beg for five years, and you're only going to give him 4 years, something is seriously messed up in the process.

    http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/07/blazers_confirm_talks_with_uta.html

     
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    A conspiracy! :NOTMARIS:

     
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    And the plane that went down in PA on 9/11? The passengers were calm and relaxed throughout the flight.

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    Bad taste.
     
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    A sports agent would never lie. They always tell the press the whole truth and nothing but.

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    Dunno, I didn't taste any of them.

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    Weird. What was Minstrel saying about this board sliding toward insanity?
     
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    PapaG, I can see you're worked up about this issue. I'm sorry I can't match your level of concern. We'll get a deal done and Brandon will be happy.
     
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    I'm not worked up. I am discussing the possibilities of what Roy saying "they aren't close to a deal" could mean. It's pretty relevant. What's the purpose of this board if the idea is to not speculate? It sure beats 39 threads about how bad Travis Outlaw sucks and how he has a low basketball IQ.
     
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    Bump again.
     
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    Interesting quote. At odds with Allen telling Pritchard to spend, spend, spend.

    I'm not sure what you desire out of us in this thread. What will appease you?
     
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    I don't see what is so troubling about PA wanting the blazers to break even. Seems like a reasonable, sensible goal.

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    I don't need to be appeased. I'd just like that quote to be taken into consideration when assessing deals this summer. It seems fairly significant to me in terms of dollars being allocated for the long- and short-term.
     
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    Of course it is. Which is why paying a back-up PF $11 million next year while pissing off our franchise player makes perfect sense! :crazy:
     
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    Since I don't think Pritchard values Millsap over Roy, I don't think there's a mandate to slash spending and Millsap has been chosen over Roy.

    It's possible, but pretty unlikely. So, beyond that, I'm not sure how to take that quote into consideration. I prefer to judge actions, not words. Offering Millsap, a not urgently needed player, a rich contract is an action that says Portland can still spend money. Now, if the Blazers and Roy break off talks, that will be an action.
     
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    Well, Millsaps money comes in 2009. The money that Roy is arguing about comes in what, 2014? They aren't the same budget year. In 2009, the big 3 are on rookie scale contracts. In 2014, if all goes well, Oden, Roy, Batum, Aldridge, Rudy, ... will be off their rookie contracts and into big paydays.

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    Millions are millions against the bottom-line in terms of "breaking even", aren't they, regardless of where they are spent? Why did Leiweke allow that quote to be put into the public domain? Why is Paul Millsap getting $11 million next year if the object is to "break even"?

    Questions, questions...
     
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    That has nothing to do with breaking even in two years, when Roy and LMA supposedly would be in the first year of a large contract extension and Millsap would be at around $9 million to be LMA's back-up. Plus, Oden/Rudy/Bayless/Batum would be up for extensions prior to that season.

    Exactly what is going on here?
     
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    Perhaps they've made budget projections for 2009, and Millsap's bonus doesn't push them into the red?

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