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  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    The announcer said there is a rumor going around Vegas that Jarrett Jack will sign with the Raptors.

    BC is working it this summer.

    PG: Calderon
    SG: Jack
    SF: Turkoglu
    PF: Bosh
    C: Bargnani

    Not bad.
     
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  2. Eastoff

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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    JJ doesn't create much, and he's only 6'3" I think he was also resigned to the Pacers
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    YEAH NBA CHAMPS NO DOUBT!
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    He had a 13.1 PER last season and owns a 13.3 career PER. As a starting two guard, I'm unenthused by this move.
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    You're right, it's not bad. It's also not good.
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    Fielding a mediocre team for many years is one of the worst positions to be at. You don't have a chance to accomplish anything in the playoffs, but you can't get the draft slot to grab an elite player.

    The only way it can get much worse is by having a bunch of overpaid long-term contracts.
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?




    It's more not good, than not bad.


    It's not worse than what they started with though, and none of the players are pissed off that they don't have a deal yet, so............
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    ............so, you could make a very real and not laughable argument that the Raptors are actually in better shape than Portland? Come on, don't chicken out. Finish that sentence, man. Put yourself out there for what you believe!
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?




    Meant purely for light hearted reading. I don't think for a second that they are in better shape than Portland. They were worse though, and they are not as worse at this moment as they were last year.
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    Nice addition, but I don't know about him as a starting 2!
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    I know. I was just ribbing you. Toronto is better on the floor, but whether the big contracts they handed out leaves them in better shape in terms of future contention, I'm not so sure.
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    I'll say this for BC, he isn't letting limited resources/opportunities become an excuse for inaction. There are teams out there worse than the Raps who are just treading water. BC is at least *trying*. It may fail, but better to fail trying than to just give up.
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    Better still to be responsible and give the team hope of contending one day. I'm not sure locking in mediocrity, because mediocrity is better than being slightly below mediocrity, is good. Nash went that route...what do you think deals to Randolph, Miles and Ratliff were?

    Colangelo is active like Nash was. May God have mercy on the Raptors' souls and such-like.
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    They are from Canada. They don't have souls or such-like up there.

    barfo
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    Interesting analogy...but in fairness, I can't compare Hedo and Bargs to Miles and Ratliff. ;)

    On a serious note, I'm not sure all teams can afford to follow the "jump in a pit and hope the fans come back when you crawl out" model. What if you aren't sure the fans *will* come back? It wouldn't shock me if BC was under a degree of outside pressure to make sure the NBA doesn't lose the Toronto market the way they lost Vancouver.

    From a certain perspective, a mediocre team that is just surviving in Toronto might beat the alternative.
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    The Raptors have been very profitable and their fanbase strong, despite the relative lack of success in the franchise's history (only one playoff series win in 10+ years). I don't think anyone's all that worried about the team moving out of this market. MLSE (Maple Leafs Sports & Entertainment) are one of the more stable ownership groups in North American sports.

    Also, Jack will be brought in as our backup PG not our starting SG.
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    That may be worse.

    You will experience many Jackisms which will make you facepalm. I feel your suffering even before it begins.
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    Yes, backup PG is a position that Jack is particularly ill-suited for. Unless you like charging fouls and turnovers.
    You should consider playing him at another position, maybe broadcaster or assistant coach.

    Good luck.

    barfo
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?



    Merge with post of two days ago: "BC outgunning KP?"


    Now he's courting Jack. OK, OK, I know who we're talking about....but BC is outgunning KP!

    ...and if he can get BOSH to sign an extension, rather than waiting until the season ends! Then he DID outgun KP!
     
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    Re: OT: Jarrett Jack to the Raptors?

    Totally. Wish we had Toronto's roster. Some teams are just blessed with brilliant GMs.

    Why can't Portland ever get good players like Jarrett Jack?
     
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