the gold cup is going on right now. the US won their group and will be in the knockout stages but with no bid to the confederations cup at stake, it's basically a garbage tournament. all the top teams(US, mexico, costa rica, honduras, canada) brought far less than their best team. from the confederations cup roster, i think charlie davies is the only guy still there for the US at this point and at most there are 5 guys in the US top 23 players who will be playing in the knockout stages. it's basically an mls team with davies, cherundolo, and heath pearce added. next qualifier is against mexico in mexico city on august 12th.
I heard from another forum that they tied Haiti 2-2 they scored a late goal in 90th min. No comment to that by the way.
yes, that was today in the gold cup. you know who the starters for the US were? i doubt it. in the starting lineup, one guy has a real chance at making the 2010 world cup roster. that would be stuart holden who unsurprisingly had an assist and goal. the US brought a garbage roster to the gold cup and then rested the majority of the starters because they'd already won the first two games. so this was mostly the backups of the bad team full of mls players they brought to the tournament playing against a haiti team that needed to get at least a point out of the match to advance to the knockout stages. i'd say "no comment" is a good response because there really isn't anything to be learned about the US team from the game.
I see, thanks for the input. But still you shouldn't be tying matches with Haiti and Haiti shouldn't be scoring a goal. Even if it is your B or C line-up playing out there.
the goalkeeper playing was at best 4th string, i'd say more likely 5th(or even 6th because the US would bring a guy like kasey keller back before starting him in a world cup). the center back pairing was the 4th string center back pairing(behind boca/onyewu, demerit/califf, and marshall/goodson). the right and left backs were guys who will likely never play in that capacity again for the national team(unless there are injuries in this tournament). taking that into account, i'm not shocked at haiti scoring. the only guys who started against haiti who will likely see any kind of consistent time over the rest of the tournament are holden, quaranta, parkhurst(only because i think goodson was injured in the first game), and cooper(as a sub).
Mixx, always nice to see your continued efforts to discredit the US National Team. Its been a while. Lets consider some facts for a moment because those are important too. In the draw with Haiti, the 14 players (11 starters, three subs) the US played have a grand total of 121 caps to their credit. The Haitian defense from last night (five players) has 151 caps (298 total for the 11 starters and two subs who played). The US played an MLS heavy group, but did not include Landon Donovan or any of the six MLSers who were on the Confederations Cup roster. Four of the US players got their first cap in this match and two others had not been capped until the Gold Cup started. Furthermore, a majority of the players who played last night and have more than two caps haven't been in Bob Bradley's consideration set for months (Conrad, Parkhurst, Cooper, Quaranta, Beckerman). Only Davies and Ching can be considered Bradley's regulars, and in the case of Davies, that's a stretch. Davies was not a regular until he started clicking with Altidore in the Confederations Cup. So in reality, Haiti brought their A-team, who where champs of the Caribbean a couple years ago, while the US brought a B/C-team that practiced together for a few weeks before starting this tournament. Something else to consider here. The US had clinched the top spot in the group and had nothing to lose. Haiti meanwhile had a lot to play for as they managed to clinch a spot in the knock-out rounds with the point last night. While a draw with Haiti is not an acceptable result, its far from being the indicator of US inferiority that you're making it out to be. As for the Confederations Cup, your dismissal of it as a tournament as "a joke" is a very easy way to ignore the best result the US has managed in a FIFA tournament in its history. Really, its weak stuff. If the Confed. Cup was "a joke," why did Spain play 9 players in that match who also featured in Bosnia's 1-0 loss early in WC Qualifying? Looking over the rosters, the only Spanish regular who was missing against the US was Iniesta, but Fernando Torres didn't play against Bosnia, so I'll call us even. As for your moronic assertion that "anyone" could have beaten Spain on that day, did you miss the 9 saves that Tim Howard made and the 28 shots that Spain attempted, many of which were blocked by DeMerit and Onyewu in defense? As for the 06 World Cup, Clint Dempsey's goal against Ghana is one more than Bosnia has ever scored in the tournament. And to put the Haiti draw in some perspective for you, Bosnia once drew with the Faroe Islands and is 0-1-1 against Moldova. On the bright side, your team does feature the reigning Bundesliga player of the year. But that will only be of greater significance than the Confederations Cup result once football is played with 1 player per team on the pitch and not 11.
Ay, my Yank friend how you doin? You should ask yourself would America really be in the Confederation Cup if they played in Europe or South America or Africa probably not hahah Now that is funny and something to laugh at.
is anyone saying that the US is a better team than brazil and argentina or spain and the other top european teams? of course not.
come on. no one was saying that the US was a better team than spain, argentina, brazil, etc. if there are two teams definitely better in south america and i think 7 teams definitely better in europe, why would i expect the US to make the confederations cup in those regions? from africa, yes the US could make it.
Way to address the topics I raised. I should have expected this from you. I point out that you're an irrational US soccer hater and you respond with off-topic, irrational US soccer hating.
There's no such thing as luck. I dont even follow soccer, but this was nuts!!! You just play the game and the cards fall.... The US did what they needed to do.. The other teams didn't. I give the US squad all the props in the world for playing their game and getting it done..
Typical. Where was that response on the first page when a guy who lists his location as "Reading, UK" called it soccer?
Soccer is football, football is soccer. I have no problem with that. I have a problem with American football being called football.
