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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Hey, I love Texas in the fall and spring. 60 more days of sunshine here than Portland. The summers on the other hand suck ass. It is cheaper though, and the food is way better. I also have pro football and baseball here.
     
  2. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    I was joking about Texas . . . personally, I have had to relocate twice. I think anywhere you live has it's good points and bad points (of course I've never lived in Detroit or Clevland).

    I've only been to Texas once, so who am I to say if it is kid freindly. Kid freindly to me means a place where parents can make a decent living to provide for the kids . . . knowing your personality, you probably didn't take it seriously, but want you to know I was jsut having fun this Monday morning.
     
  3. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    Detroit (and any number of other teams) has a worse team than Portland. Therefore they can make and need to make any number of moves to improve their team.

    PDX only has a limited amount of moves they can make and need to make to fill holes and improve the 4th best team in the west.

    You're the worst kind of reactionary. You want to make a move just to make a move.

    Get in the life boat lady. We'll stay here while the captain fixes the leak.
     
  4. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I don't take much of anything seriously on forum boards.

    Houston, where I live, is pretty darned kid friendly. It's just a lot cheaper to do anything....LOL other than cool your house in the summers
     
  5. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    That's absolutely not the case.

    Portland was 4th in the west, and that was great, but Portland was closer to 9th than 1st. We had a losing road record, and only beat 2 teams at or above .500 on the road. 1 after Chris Paul went out injured. Portland indeed was 4th in conference, but has a below average starter at 2 possitions. Steve Blake is a hell of a guy, but not a starting quality PG on a contending team. Nicolas Batum looks like he is going to be a really good player in a few years, but that is in a few years. Add in a back up POWER forward and you have 3 key possitions that Portland needs to address.

    For this team to tell all of us that 2009 was the year we were aiming for with our cap space and not to get anything done shoul dpiss people off.

    So we ended up with around 8 million to spend, and could have more if we renounce two guys that will never play here anyway. So roughly 9.5 million to spend on 3 needs and we have zero to show for it.

    It has nothing to do with your rediculous boat reference, it has to do with Portland needing a couple of improvements and not using RLEC, or our FA money to get those things.
     
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    RR7 Well-Known Member

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    And that has more to do with how good LA was than anything. I don't really see the relevance of this statement. As if we were extremely close to missing out on the playoffs. We were also tied with 2nd place record wise. So we were just as close to 9th as every other team in the playoffs.
     
  7. alex42083

    alex42083 Thanks Brandon

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    Yeah.. Afflalo's just an OK player. But I think Dahntay Jones was a better for fit for them with his defense and sometimes emotional outbursts like every Thugget has.
    He's a nice player to replace Jones, but not that significant of an upgrade to say they'll be so much better.
     
  8. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    What an absolute pile of Shit.

    They were 4th all day every day forever and ever end of. Not to mention they finished tied with Denver who were the 2nd seed.
     
  9. mikeg

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    Yeah, but we won a number of games in which we trailed big time last year. A few bad bounces here and there, and this easily could have been a 47 win team instead of a 54 win team. And I think the fact that we got smoked in round 1 when we had home court and were playing a team missing its best player, pretty much shows that, although they finished 4th, this was probably abut the 6th or 7th best team in the west.

    So I agree with Mediocre Man: we have 3 glaring needs (PG, SF, and backup PF) and have not done anything to address them this off-season, in spite of having plenty of $$ to do so. To me, the PG situation is by far the most glaring. I'm OK with Batum/Webster and a Ronny Turiaf would have sufficed at the backup PF spot. But with all this money and we don't land a Kidd/Sessions/Nash/Bibby/Miller... that's just terrible if that's how it ends up.
     
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    Portland had the 5th best point differential in the NBA last year at +5.3. Houston was 6th at +4.0.

    I have no clue what you are talking about. Houston was not missing Yao against Portland, and the point differential suggests that, over an 82 game season, a strong argument can be made for Portland being the second-best team in the West last season.
     
  11. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    Yet another absolute pile of steaming shit.

    There is no "we should have been" there is only what is.

    Had the ball bounced our way 1 more time, we would have been the 2nd seed.

    Had James fucking Posey made his free throws we wouldn't have had to play Houston.

    Every team wins games they should have lost, and loses some they should have won.

    You just choose to look at the Blazers in a negative light and only look at games that ONLY IN YOUR OPINION we should have lost.

    Into the life boat you go! I'm just going to sit here with my drink and let the captain take care of business.
     
  12. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    So then....

    Since our PG IS below average, and our SF's ARE below average at this point, and since our back up power forward IS vacant, doesn't that mean you agree with me that they DO need to be fixed?
     
  13. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    None of the above has anything to do with what I was saying (Nor is any of it true)

    Steve Blake is NOT below Average. Travis Outlaw is NOT below average. And Batum is a guy every team is demanding in any trade we try to make... Weird they'd all want someone so bleow average. Especially when they are so much smarter and wiser than our schlep of a GM.

    Do we need a Back Up PF? Sure, I guess. Hey! Have you heard of this guy? His name is Paul Millsap...

    You should google him.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Blake and Outlaw are pretty active. Batum is wanted for his upside.
     
  15. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    While there is no true way to measure whether a player is average or not, PER seems to be a good way to do it.

    PG PER ratings go 1-20, and Blake isn't in the top 20. Since there are 30 teams, that would put Blake as a below average starting PG.

    Travis also didn't quite make it into the top 1/2 of SF's Much. much better than Blake though. Batum will be a good one. That's what I said. He is simply not quite ready yet.

    I have heard of Millsap. He is a PF for the Utah Jazz. What does that have to do with Portland?


    82games.com has Portland's PG possition PER as 25th by the way.
     
  16. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    Did you mean to say average?

    Thanks for the update on Batum. I know this aging Portland team isn't in the market for players who have big upsides. Let's trade him for Jeff foster.

    CHAMPIONS!!!!!
     
  17. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    Jesus dude, you mentioned we needed a back up PF. I'm pretty sure that's what position he plays. I may need to google it again.

    2 questions:

    1. Whats Zach Randolphs "PER"?

    2. Do you think we'll be using PER in 10 years? Me neither.


    And still, NONE of this has anything to do with you and others wanting to make a move JUST to make a move because "everyone else is doing it"
     
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  18. mikeg

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    I was referring to Tracy McGrady.

    Does it not worry you that we couldn't beat out SA for the 3rd spot when they had major injuries all year? Does it not worry you that we couldn't beat a Rocket team that did not have their best player? And we're not even talking about what it would take to catch up to Denver or LA.

    Look, man, I'm not saying we are terrible. I'm not saying the Blazers are the Kings. I understand we had a good point differential. I'm just saying that I thought our record was a little overinflated last year. And our record against other elite teams wasn't very good. Several of our rivals had bad breaks last year and may have improved this offseason. I don't think the #4 spot in the west is a lock for this or any other year. We could stand to improve our roster.

    Quit acting like anyone who disagrees with you is a complete moron. It's childish.
     
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    Nice attitude, there, buddy...

    We don't exactly have Milsap at this point, do we? Let's revisit this if/when we get him.

    Look, I think most NBA observers would tell you that Blake is an average PG. Does somethings well, others not so well. Same with all of our SFs. I don't think it's being negative to say that, yes, it would be a good idea to see if we can improve these two positions. So far this offseason, we have not done that.
     
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    Portland reminds me of Miami teams from years past, before Wade. Back when Mourning and Tim hardaway were there, every year Miami would over achieve during the regular season, and I think all but one year they got knocked out in the first round of the playoffs, because they were playing at the highest level they could during the regular season, and were unable to turn it up a notch during the playoffs. Portland reminds me of that right now. They fight for respect every night, and play hard because of that. But when the playoffs came, they didn't have another level to go to. Brandon Roy did. Nobody else had another gear.
     

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