Expect No Changes Heading Into Next Season....

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  1. LittleAlex

    LittleAlex Well-Known Member

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    I guess with regards to Blake I would say not all assists are created by being a playmaker. Some come from simply moving the ball around the perimeter and the guy you passed to happens to hit a shot. I have no proof of this, but it sure seemed like a large number of Blake's assists came in just this manner.

    It would account for his low assist to turn-over ratio as well as his almost super human ability to avoid the free throw line.

    So, Blake may very get assists due to the way he is used, but calling him a play maker is a bit much.

    I remain dubious about Bayless as a pure point guard as well. I just think Portland doesn't really need such a thing all that bad. My main complaint with Blake is his inability to put pressure on the opposing defense. Bayless for all his faults does not have this problem.
     
  2. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    Capspace can be used for a lopsided trade. If you don't think any teams will have a strong urge to cut salary in a few months you're kidding yourself.
     
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    We went from Summer 09 plan to "lopsided trade".

    Lopsided trades are usually with expiring contracts (I.E. RELC) not trade exceptions, aren't they?


    IF they didn't want to cut salary with an 80% insurance payment of the salary itself, then why would they want to in a "lopsided trade"?
     
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    I'd call cap space an "overvalued" asset by fans.

    It doesn't provide the benefit that was projected or anticipated.
     
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    Just sign Roy and Aldridge, and forget the damn imaginary cap space, and I'll be happy.
     
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  7. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    Huh? By being 7.7 million (is that the number?) under the cap, they can execute a financially uneven trade of up to 7.7 million to make salaries match. Have you not been paying attention to the whole Boozer thing? That 3-way trade would be one example.
     
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    Space exists. Whether you use it or not, it's still there.
    If I have money, but do not use it, is tha money imaginary?
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Boozer's been traded?

    If it hasn't happened, it doesn't exist.

    What major moves have ever been used in which a lopsided trade was made using CAP SPACE instead of an expiring contract?
     
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    Perhaps. I would equate it to being more "rich on paper" than anything....you have "flexibility" but until you become liquid, it doesn't really mean squat.
     
  12. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    Oh give me a break... :smiley-whatever:
     
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    what's so hard to figure...until we do have a trade where we are facilitating Boozer through the use of our "salary cap flexibility", its all specuation and gobbedly-goo. frankly, i don't see it happening and if our cap space was used as some part of an elaborate deal to land Kirk Hinrich or Udonis Haslem...not really impressed and it seems more of a hail mary than anything else.
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    There is one thing the Blazers could do with all that cap space...


    ...turn a profit.
     
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    aren't the clippers one of the most profitable teams in the league?

    I mean if that's how you want to emulate yourselves after, go ahead!
     
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    It is definitely a worry I have regarding the recent ideology rearing its head this off-season. I'm glad you've figured out lopsided trades, though. You see now the power of them, and how they could come in handy when NO is more desperate. Trading a rookie-scale player or a pick for an expensive player is a powerful... err... power.
     
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    Break even!

    Subsidize!
     
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    So, we will be right back where we were last season - looking at players viewed by their current teams as overpaid. KP made pretty clear last season that he isn't interested in that kind of deal.
     
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    Good question.

    The best I can come up with is the Sonics/Suns deal, where the Sonics got 2 first round picks for using their capspace to take on Thomas. I'm sure there are others, but they are comparatively rare.
     
  20. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    I realize it's your internet persona to be grouchy all the time, but you're wrong.
     

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