can we stop the myth about Bayless being a good defender?

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    Re: Bayless's defense. He's always struck me as more Sasha Vujacic than Eric Snow. Lots of aggression and movement, but not much strategy.
     
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    Really? Just how much better is Houston's starting five than it was last year...

    Utah is looking stellar

    I am afraid of the big men down in Phoenix
     
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    Ok. You got me there.

    I was thinking of the team on par or above us last year. LA (if they retain Odom), SA, DEN, DAL all got better when I read that.
     
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    How did Denver get better?
     
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    Aflalo >= Jones. Lawson is a better backup PG than Carter.
     
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    I disagree, and it's really not an improvement worth saying improves a team. Both Jones and Afflalo are borderline NBA players.

    Lawson has yet to play a second on NBA basketball.
     
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    Bayless is the poster boy for why some players should stay in college for 4 years.

    He's too small for the NBA game, doesn't understand the NBA game, and simply is not up to performing at an NBA level.

    Never mind the D league, send him back to school.:sigh:
     
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    huh? I recall him looking pretty good in an early season game vs Portland I attended last year. As an undrafted rookie he had a decent season posting a 14.7 PER highlighted by this little ray of sunshine

    I really don't get your line of criticism here

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    The difference is about 5 years of experience in the NBA. Should Bayless get to year 3 and still be a project, then it would be time to consider pulling the plug.

    If Bayless gets to year six and still sucks as bad as Travis, I hope he is playing somewhere else.
     
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    So where'd he go late in the season? He wasn't injured, but he just dropped out of the rotation entirely. And why is he back at Summer League?

    I agree, he didn't just do it in Summer League. He's a Von Wafer (who actually held the scoring record until Randolph broke it). Von Wafer's available again, by the way...
     
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    How'd Denver get better?
     
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    Nellie uses random rotations.
     
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    McMillan consolidated backup PG minutes to Sergio for the playoff drive. Teams don't often use three PGs in the playoffs as a general rule. Why Sergio? Because he had more experience running the offense.


    He's back in Summer League because he's 20 and entering his second year in the league.


    Von Wafer was not a lottery pick. He's a random player you picked out of thin air in order to make a baseless comparison.
     
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    Actually they were talking about Anthony Morrow when Wafer's name came up, so lottery pick is irrelevant.

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    Von Wafer :confused: Their games aren't much alike but I guess you could make a comparison. Morrow lead the league in 3 point % as an undrafted rookie (which is a season long stat). He's not the athlete or finisher that Wafer is, but he's a fantastic threat from deep. On a team as rich in 2 guard types as the W's were last year, he did pretty well for a rook IMO... both made contributions off the bench I guess.

    I think a more apt comparison would be fellow 23 year old rookie 2 guard Rudy Fernandez.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/morroan01.html
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fernaru01.html

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    maybe u dont realize this but summer league means nothing... bayless is also playing out of position too.. playin the point... last year in summer league he wasnt handling the ball the majority of the time.. anyways, he realizes what the purpose of summer league is and i think he will get a better hang of point gaurd play in the summer league..
     
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    didn't they have Koponen sit out a couple games last summer so that JB could have a turn at it?

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    Lawson was probably due after going 1 for 15 the first couple of games. Team defense is horrible in summer league. Fast guards can buzz by anybody, and Lawson is as fast as they come.
     
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