Rumored deal?

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    The point was that he can get into the lane and dish.

    The fact that he has averaged so many assists in his career without playing with an elite big man speaks volumes at how good he would be for us
     
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    I'm not sure why bringing Sessions in would necessarily mean that Blake goes out, personally I'd much rather trade Bayless and go with Sessions and Blake as the PG rotation.

    Also, while I agree that Sessions is a bit of an uncertainty, so too is Miller. What's to say that he won't fall off a cliff next season? Maybe he'd have a hard time adapting his game to Nate's system, or accepting Roy's leadership, or staying motivated after he gets his new contract? There is uncertainty with all players, not just young ones.
    how many times does the "Team X waived a player, trade coming soon" thing actually work out? I swear, everyone gets all excited and then nothing comes of it.
     
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    He averaged 1.5 more assists and 1 more TO than Blake last season in 5 more minutes per game. He's also a terrible 3 pt shooter (28%), although he is better than the utterly horrific Sessons. He's old and gets beat by quicker guards, just like Blake does.

    I fail to see the upgrade. :dunno:
     
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    Then I am sorry for you.
     
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    upgrade in the luxury tax PA will have to pay next year.
     
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    1.5 assists and 1 more TO. Also pulled down 2 more rebounds, however, and attempted 4 more FTs a game. The benefit of those 4 FTs could be seen by the easy points, but also by the additional 2 fouls per game it causes against the opposition. Could be putting opposing bigs in foul trouble early, could be getting us into the bonus mroe often.
     
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    We're not near the luxury tax. Signing Andre Miller for all of our cap space will not put us in the luxury tax.
     
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    Well, two parties seem to agree on something. Both Bulls fans and Sixers fans wonder why in the world Portland wouldn't just cut Philly out of the Hinrich deal and take him themselves.
     
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    Miller will be 34 by next year's playoffs. He's not a long-term solution, and bringing him in for a year as a starter doesn't make much sense to me.
     
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    Why does an upgrade need to be a long term solution? Why can't we upgrade for two years, and then move on from there? Not every move has to benefit us 7 years from now.
     
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    Roy's usage is higher than Iguadola's, meaning Miller had more time with the ball in Philly than he'd have in Portland, and he had open lanes due to the way Philly runs their offense. If Oden is posting up, driving the lane opportunities are limited, unless the plan is to play Oden up top in a pick and roll. If that's the case, though, I'd rather have Roy with the ball over Miller, meaning Miller would need to hit open 3s off of a pick and roll rotation. Which is what Blake does...
     
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    I don't think Miller is an upgrade over Blake in terms of how this team runs its offense. :dunno:
     
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    next year it wont, with extensions kicking in?
     
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    And do you expect or want Roy to be the only person running that pick and roll, and the only wing player on our team or starting capable of initiating offense and penetrating? Everyone else shoudl just be spot up shooters? Wouldn't it benefit Roy mroe if the offense was varied to where others took a larger load the first three quarters, and he was more able to pick his spots of when to attack, but also able to conserve his energy for the 4th quarter?
     
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    Miller would be great. We need EASY buckets. He would provide a few and get to the line way more than Blake. The only knock on Miller is his 3pt shooting. Age is only an issue if a players performance is declining. Look at what he did to us last year and it should be pretty obvious his age isn't an issue. I don't think it happens, but I would like to see Andre in a Blazer jersey. No big contract though.
     
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    Ok. You certainly aren't going to convince me you are right, so let's agree to disagree. While not ideal, I think Miller would be a huge upgrade to Blake, and you don't. It's all good. I mean we both want the same thing at that end of the year for the team, I would assume. :cheers:
     
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    I don't think so, since Miles' deal will be coming off then.
     
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    I also find it a bit scary that in 10 years as a starter, Miller has never been the PG on a team that made it out of the 1st round of the playoffs. Throw the vet minimum at him and let him compete with Blake? I guess I'd be for that. Sign him to a contract that pays him anything over the vet minimum? No thanks.
     
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    I wouldn't hate Miller coming to Portland, but at a very low price and without a guarantee to start if Blake is still here. I don't think he's a bad player at all; I just don't think he's the right player for this team. :cheers:
     
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    ah forgot about Miles.
     

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