Andre Miller's Agent Confirms Meet With Blazers.

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  1. alex42083

    alex42083 Thanks Brandon

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    Interesting tidbit at the end, that I may not quite understand.

    Anyone care to explain it in simple terms?
     
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    So.... you're saying Roy is the one that sucks. Get him outta heere!!!

    /sarcasm
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    The cap hit of any salaries paid after a player turns 36 is spread over the pre-36 contract years (to avoid abuse of giving "deferred payments" to a player after his playing days are essentially done).

    So a team who only had the MLE to offer couldn't offer the full MLE starting out, if the contract took Miller past age 36, because when you added in the post-36 cap hits to the starting years, it would be more than the MLE and thus more than the team is allowed to pay.

    This affects Portland, too, in that they can't offer a deal starting at their full cap room, if that deal goes past his age-36 season. Because then any post-36 salaries would be spread (in terms of cap hit) over the initial years, making the "cap value" of his contract greater than the Blazers' cap space.
     
  4. alex42083

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    Thanks. Sounds like a crazy, weird rule to me.
     
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    Rudy Fernandez was on fire, don't even act like he wasn't the no brainer.
     
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    Blake is the king of anti-clutch. That one play solidified his ticket out of Portland in my mind.
     
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    Blake was 4-6 on threes in that game; Rudy was 5-7. I don't consider Rudy a no-brainer in that instance. I don't think he hit any game-winning shots last year, either. Blake just missed the shot. It happens. He had 16 points/10 assists in that game, and you show one play to "prove" that Sessions is a better player.
     
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    I don't know. He won at least one game with a late 3 last year. He also played much of the season with a shoulder that needed surgery in the offseason, yet he still managed to shoot 43% from 3 for the year.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...hree-pointer-trail-blazers-edge-raptors-98-97

     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Which seems to make him an ideal candidate to recieve a 3 year contract for about 18 to 20 million -- that's slightly more than the MLE, but isn't so expensive or long tenured as to be especially burdensome to the team financially (assuming he can at least give you above average play for 2 out of those three years; if he starts to suck in year three he'd at least be a somewhat attractive expiring contract and could have some value that way.
     
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    LMAO. I didn't show anything. Someone else posted the video. It was a horribly executed play in a Playoff game. I didn't say that one play proves Ramon is better, all you have to do is look at their numbers and their PERs. It's not even a question about who's better. Blake ran down the court with the ball by himself and threw up an air ball in a game we could have won. Rudy hit some game winners, I think one in particular was against Miami. I like Blake, but he's no starter.
     
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    Miller's ability to run the fast break and finish in general make him a great pickup for the Blazers. He can actually create offense, now someone will probably say that Bayless can do the same thing. Well J-Bay has never shown he can do it night in and night our, Andre Miller has.
     
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    I'd be pretty cool with Miller on that sort of deal. I still have hope for the eventual Roy/Bayless/Rudy guard rotation and Miller would be a nice bridge while waiting on Bayless.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Rudy's shot against Miami was not a game winner, we were already up 4 or 6. It basically sealed the deal.

    This, however...

    [video=youtube;kZuSZmFPcLw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZuSZmFPcLw[/video]

    Skip to 2:07...
     
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    Freaking thank you! The voice of reason! Roy can adapt. LMA and Oden can't. Besides developing Oden should be A number 1, numero uno priority of this team. Otherwise welcome to 10 more years of repeating the previous 20 with plenty of trips to the post season and no hardware. If Oden doesn't develop into a monster it won't matter if Roy averages 30 10 and 10.
     
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    Come on man. Rudy had hit a fade away three falling out of bounds with Battier in his face a few plays before that. They actually had to hose him down with fire retardent and issue him an asbestos towel to sit on the wooden bench with. The man was the very definition of En Fuego.
     
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    Sweet . . . I don't understand all the Blake bashing that happens on this board.
     
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    All of us know that Blake can shoot.

    That video also showed Blake sagging too far off of Kapono when Kapono drained a 3. It also showed what a lot of us have said, that Blake can't create his own shot. He got a pass and hit it.
     
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    MAS RipCity Mercy, Mercy

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    All he does is shoot 3's.
    Can't defend
    Can't penetrate to the basket
    Doesn't lead the fast break well
    Not a good rebounding pg
    Even lately his foul shooting in the clutch has been suspect.


    His shooting has won us game and kept us in others and I wouldn't be TOO upset if he stayed, but I'm ready for change. The playoffs really solidified my views as well..he just wasn't a threat to score and Brooks had a great series against him.....don't even mention that awful attempt to tie game 3 .... :smiley-puke:
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Same ... and as much as I like the upside of B-Rex, I think it's a bit premature to pencil him into a 30+ minute a night role, he's definitely trying to adapt his game and show that he can be more of a distributor, which -- while laudable -- is still looking pretty undercooked to me.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    My only beef with Blake is that I think he's miscast in the starter's role, as a reserve point guard or even your third guard (since he seems to play as much shooting guard as point guard on offense) for fifteen to twenty minutes per game, I think he'd be ideal and would provide solid, high percentage basketball -- able to protect a lead or at least not be the guy to give it back.

    If the Blazers somehow blow my mind and sign Andre Miller and don't trade blake in the process I'd be happy to have him play backup.
     

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