Brad Miller or Big Z?

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  1. CB4allstar

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    Who would you rather have?Debate. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Brad Miller, hes a better all-around player in my opinion and he isnt as injury prone. Hes one of the best passers in the league in terms of big men and he plays solid basketball at both ends..
     
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    I'd go with Miller. He's able to contribute to the game without being the primary scorer. i know in Cleveland that Lebron is option #1, but i think that Ilgauskas is the type of player that needs the ball to be effective. He has the better size and better low post game, but Miller is the type of player that makes plays for his team. He's averaging just around 5 assists a game. Not too bad for a center. I've not watched too many of their games, so i'm not really sure who is better on defense, but just looking at stats i'd say that Ilgauskas clogs the middle better. If you look at stats it looks like Ilgauskas is a better rebounder, and a way better offensive rebounder, 3 offensive rebounds a game compared to 1 by Miller, but you need to take into account that Ilgauskas plays closer to the basket while Miller plays primarily out on the perimeter. So of course Z is going to get a few more. Last thing, Miller is better in the transition game. He able to run more than Z. so my pick is Miller.
     
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    Miller, no comparison. He can do everything that Z can do, and he's a far superior passer, defender, and all around player. Big Z is just a clutz.
     
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    I'll say Miller as well. He has more range on his jumper then Big Z. Miller is a great passer for a big guy, he knows the game well. He can rebound pretty well. Big Z gets alot of inside looks from Lebron and gets easy tips inside bc of that. Miller is quicker and can create for himself alot better.
     
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    Their range is about the same. Z's outside shot is actually a strength of his.
     
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    Miller can hit the 20 footer. Miller has better range then Z.
     
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    And z can't hit the 20 footer? come on, that's one of his strengths. Do you even watch him?
     
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    Brad Miller is actaully a 38% shooter from the 3point line. So he does have more range than Z.
     
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    Brad Miller from 3: 38%Big Z from 3: 0-5 0%There ya go.
     
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    Z doesn't shoot 3's but he has range for a big guy. Brad Miller may be able to step out one step back, but that's really not much.
     
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    Brad can shoot 3 pointers. Big Z can't. So Brad has more range, yeah...
     
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    Z has hit from three though, so it shows he can hit a shot from out there. Both are still not great shooters from 20 foot, so how can you say they even have range out there.To me, you have to be able to hit a shot consistently to have range. Hitting a shot every once in a while means jack.
     
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    .382 is a very decent average from 3 for a big man. Big Z has a 0% fg percentage from long range. Brad has a 38 percentage. If Big Z could hit from 1 foot in from the 3 pt line he should be able to atleast make 1 shot from 1 step back. I don't buy that and I think it is bs. Brad has more range. Why'd you even bring this up, Trey?
     
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    Brad Miller for his career is 30% from 3, that's not good.
     
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    do you watch Cleveland? Z hits those 20 footers all the time.
     
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    I think they are both good shooters, especially taking into account the fact that they play the center position, however, the fact that Miller is able to stretch the defense moreso by hitting threes makes all the more dangerous. I think he is a better passer and a better, tougher defender. Additionally, Miller would be my choice because he isnt injury prone like Zyrdunas has been over the course of his career..
     
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    I would take BMiller since he can shoot from anywhere on the court and he rebs well while making some great plays with MBibby. These 2 guys get along so well. As for Z, he play very well when it comes 2 scoring but not as consistent as Miller, and Miller rebs way more than him.
     

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