What is a Tweener?

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  1. Tyler_Hansbrough

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    I see the term all over the board, but I do not know what it means.
     
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    Usually refers to a small shooting guard or a small power forward. Means they are built more for another position (by the classical definition of that position) but don't have the requisite skillsets. Tweener means "between two positions".
     
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    Thanks. So is being a tweener a bad thing?
     
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    I don't agree with the listing above. A player who is good at multiple positions is versatile. A player who is not good at any of the multiple positions they play at is a tweener. A player who is good at multiple positions is versatile, not a tweener. The term came into basketball to describe players who were not good at two positions because of size. Not big enough for a 4. Not small enough for a 3. Stuff like that. Most tweeners become mediocre players at best because they are not physically suited for a specific positon.
     
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    It's like you meet this really hot blonde at a nightclub. You take her home and find out she has a penis.

    Most of the way there. Just missing some pretty vital physical ingredients to get the job done.
     
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    Usually it is. If a player is undersizeed for one position (and all that usually entails) and too big for another (and all that usually entails), then in the end they just don't fit. Not that they can't eek out some sort of career, but that they are more times ineffective than not.
     
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    how can you be too big for a position?
     
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    Too big in this case means too slow.

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    You can be too slow, not have enough other skills due to size...

    A few players get away with being too big for a position, but the other 98% don't.
     
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    Alan Iverson! Is that an example?
     
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    Not in my opinion. He's a PG sized player who can play that position fairly well.

    I'm thinking of a player like Fred Jones or Antonio Daniels. Both have NBA talent, but because they're too small for SG and too big for PG, they languish around. To be sure, they have some good games, but are all too often abused due to their size. I think Bayless is on his way to the same thing.
     
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    k, too big makes no sense. A tweener is just someone that is too small for their skill set.


    ^to blazerprophet^^ Again too big to be a pg? you mean have no pg skills? you can't be too big for a position in the nba lol, size is everything, they just have no pg skills.
     
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    Well Brent Barry had PG skills, but isn't a good PG, and a lot of that has to do with his size and speed level. See?
     
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    George Lynch. Rick Fox. Travis Outlaw. Those are examples of tweeners.
     
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    Here's what I mean. Most (90% or so) of the players in the NBA are too big to play other positions traditionally played by players more than 3" shorter as they cannot aquire the skills to play that 'smaller' position well. To be sure, some (like Magic Johnson) do quite well overall, but the vast majority don't.
     
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    Not necessarily. Charles Barkley was only 6'6, but nobody ever called him a "tweener", mostly because he was so strong and was a fantastic leaper.

    Shareef Abdur Rahim is a classic tweener, IMO. He was about 6'8, 240. He was too slow to play small forward, and too short and unathletic to really be effective at PF. At least on a good team.

    "Tweener" is most often used as a derogatory term to describe people stuck between SF/PF, but not good at either. It isn't used on other positions mostly because:

    • There's really not a huge difference between PF and C anymore. Tim Duncan could be either. I don't hold it against him, and I'm certainly not going to insult him by calling him a "tweener."

    • Shooting guards and small forwards are somewhat interchangeable. The average height in the NBA is a little over 6'6, which happens to be a little too short for "prototypical SF" and a little too tall for "prototypical SG."

    • Guys who are stuck between SG and PG are typically described as "undersized shooting guards." If you are 6'5 and have PG skill (ie, Brandon Roy) people pretty much soil themselves in exctasy over you. If you are 6'8 and have PG skill, you are either LeBron or Magic.
     
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    ^^^^^I never said tweeners were bad, barkley was def a tweener, he was just really good. I actually like tweeners because they are usually more skilled than the traditionally sized players


    haha all i'm saying is that too big makes no sense, too slow or unskilled makes sense, but too big is like being too good of a shooter, it's dumb. If you could have allen iverson the way he is, or at 6'5" who do you take?
     
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    Can you imagine if A.I. was 6'6'' 220lbs ??

    Scary thought.
     
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    Can you imagine if A.I. was 60'6" and 2200 lbs?

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