Rumor: We are offering Bayless

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  1. Mediocre Man

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    Steve Patterson traded Blake, not Kevin Pritchard. Kevin Pritchard was angry according to the reports, and bringing Blake back was a top priority of his when he became GM.
     
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    I still can't tell if you're kidding.

    Are you kidding?

    Bayless didn't play well, but he STILL was the youngest guy on our team and one of the youngest in the summer league.

    Did he average 30 points a game? No. That does not mean that he "laid an enormous egg", and I find it hilarious that anyone would think that it did.

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    Why?

    I don't know if you had a chance to watch the games themselves, but most of his assists were hand offs. He was completely flustered by weak double teams that Jeter shredded and frankly was maybe the worst "PG" I saw after watching every game. At least that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
     
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  4. Ed O

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    Of course I watched the games. I didn't see the final one (against the Select team) but I watched pretty closely.

    Bayless was easily the best player on the Blazers team... the only one that the other team made any effort to double-team or otherwise help out on. He made a TON of turnovers, no question, but he was still able to do whatever he wanted with the ball, whether it was get to the rack and the line or get off jumpers (some of which he actually made this summer).

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    Maybe because BayLESS stinks? :dunno:
     
    BoomChakaLaka, Jul 22, 2009
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    ...unfortunately, Bayless has a piss-poor attitude and I would not mind at all if he was included in some sort of trade package that landed a starting quality SF/PG!!!
     
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    I'm considering de-repping you. :tsktsk:
     
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    Really? Such a piss-poor attitude that he's almost maniacal about working to get better?
     
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    Here's a theory that should warm the hearts of those wanting to get Sessions with a sign-and-trade: the suggestion that a holdup (and a reason for the Blazers' complete silence on Sessions) is that we'd also be trading for Kurt Thomas and/or Bruce Bowen as well, and neither of those can be bundled with Sessions until August 23rd.
     
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    I doubt that. If that were the case we wouldn't hear about the nearing of offers from other teams.

    Besides we could pull of the deal by making two simultaneous deals, right?

    Sign-and-trade Sessions for Bayless, using our cap space to absorb about $3M and then, in a separate deal trading the rest of our cap space for Thomas (isn't he at $4M).
     
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    You took the letters off of my fingers... or something.

    A bad attitude? From Bayless?

    Where do people come up with this stuff?

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    Doing that would turn part of our cap space into a trade exception that can only be used on a single player. Waiting and bundling would leave us with more cap space.

    [Edit: I am confused here. Let me think if I can salvage some sense in what I said. Hmmm... Okay, no. Let's see the proposal:
    Bucks send re-signed sessions (around $6M) and Thomas ($3.8M) to Blazers. We send Bayless and ??? to Bucks. If it was just Bayless, then what CtC says above makes sense. But if we're trying to preserve cap space by adding more to Bayless in the trade (Martell? Outlaw?) then... what CtC says still makes sense. The ONLY reason we wouldn't be able to do this is if more than simply Thomas and Sessions were coming over, or if the Bucks wanted to trade Thomas AND Bowen AND Sessions or if Sessions' agent wanted to wait it out and see if they can con the Knicks or someone into offering him a nice fat juicy offer sheet (perhaps more than the Blazers would by themselves, not wanting to bid against themselves).]
     
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    I'm confused on how it would leave us with mroe cap space, or what deal you are envisioning exactly, ras.
     
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    I am not saying Bayless isn't a good general player. He is. I also love his attitude. My only point is that his pure PG skills are nearly non existant and I would have expected better after being in the NBA for a year.
     
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    Hm.... http://twitter.com/Bowen12/status/2783951965

     
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    THAT makes a lot more sense. Sorry if I was arguing something we weren't disagreeing about.

    Where we diverge here is just that I'm not in a huge rush to expect PG skills from Bayless. I think that as long as he can attack the basket and play passable defense, he'll be able to contribute in the backup PG spot this year.

    We'll see...

    Ed O.
     
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    Well said. People need to temper their expectations a bit...
     
    B-Roy, Jul 22, 2009
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    It is way overblown. I must admit, however, that when I heard he was missing the game against the select team, my first thought was "phantom injury to avoid getting embarassed." :dunno:
     
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    I would think we can all agree on 3 things.

    A) Bayless is not ready to be a starting PG.

    B) We have no clue when/if he ever will be.

    C) Given "A" and "B", he is most certainly not untouchable in trade talks.
     
    oldmangrouch, Jul 22, 2009
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