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  1. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Where else would you have confusion? In your elbow? :P
     
  2. Crimson the Cat

    Crimson the Cat Well-Known Member

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    My wife would come up with an alternative body part that gets confused. Hey Oh! ;)
     
  3. Денг Гордон

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    This will shock some people, but there is no such thing as the LLE.

    The exceptions to the salary cap are Larry Bird, Early Bird, Non-Bird, Mid-Level, Bi-Annual, Rookie, Minimum, Traded Player, Disabled Player, and Reinstatement.
     
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    Crimson the Cat Well-Known Member

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    Well holy hell, so we DONT have any exceptions then. I give up. We got Miller so its all good.
     
  5. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Isn't the LLE the same as the bi-annual or "million dollar" exception?

    Am I having a brain cramp?

    Ed O.
     
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    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    And Minimum Salary exception, of course.

    Ed O.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    The Minimum Salary Exception is often called the "Lower Level Exception" or LLE. It may not be the actual term for it, but I've seen that usage plenty.
     
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    I need to get a pith helmet so I can wade through this absolute jungle of factoids here in the dark heart of CBA-land. Truly, there is no place more wild, wooly or breathtakingly dull as the heart of darkest CBA-land.
     
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    I think this was a decent 3rd option move and I actually like it far better then option one, the Hedo signing. With this one I have no problem accepting it. I absolutely love the contract it couldn't really have gotten much better as far as length and the might have something to do with it's girth $7mil is a pretty penny. Hedo on the other hand I felt ill at the thought of 5 years at $50 million. I thought oh no, pritchard is making a mistake! This is an Albatross contract in the making! So yeah, by comparison Dre' is a stroke of genius.
     
  10. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    It was definitely a BIG win for the team. KP is obviously thinking like I am that our biggest need is at PF. We just couldn't get a deal done in that area. Miller will definitely help us and hopefully Pendergraph can provide us with enough in the limited minutes he will play.
     
  11. Денг Гордон

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    I've never seen it referred to as that. I always figured the LLE was just something that got thrown out there by sports writers who have no idea about the actual rules governing the NBA, but they had seen it written by other sportswriters, who picked it up as an exception that exists, but in reality, it was the Bi-Annual they were referring to, but that the sportswriters felt was an every year exception like the MLE, when in reality, it can only be used once every two years.

    A team really doesn't possess the minimum salary exception. They can use it an unlimited amount of times (if they want to constantly sign, cut, and sign players).
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    There are two exceptions that are always in play each year for teams over the cap, the Mid-Level Exception (which allows a team to sign a player at the average NBA salary once per year) and the Minimum Salary Exception (which allows a team to sign a player at the minimum NBA salary whenever necessary). Since the MLE is the larger one, the other one (the Minimum Salary Exception) was referred to as the Lower Level Exception, or LLE. That's how I've seen it used a lot, in the past.

    I don't know what you mean by "a team doesn't really possess it." Every team gets it, it's only relevant when a team is over the cap and it can be used as much as desired. It's not a one-time or limited-use exception.
     
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    A team doesn't posess a minimum salary exception like they do the MLE or Bi-Annual. Those, they can only use once.

    The minimum salary exception doesn't count against the cap at all and can be used an unlimited amount of times.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, let's do the math.

    The minimum salary for 2009-2010 is $457,588 (for a player with no experience).
    Possession is nine-tenths of the law.
    So non-possession is one-tenth of the law.
    Since a team doesn't possess it, the minimum salary is one tenth of the law.
    Therefore, the law is $4,575,880.
    So if someone lays down the law, you should pick it up.

    barfo
     
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    Okay. All of that is true, but I have no idea what it has to do with "possessing." I'll just have to assume you're using the word in some specific way that makes sense to you. ;) As far as I'm concerned, all teams possess the minimum salary exception and it works differently from the MLE and the bi-annual.
     
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    None of the free agents left at this time were worth the cost IMO. That is why they were still out there. Otherwise, they would have been signed and gone. I am really hoping this works out for the team, but my gut instinct is the opposite right now. It doesn't really matter, the season depends more on Greg than anything. We know what Roy can do. We know what Aldridge can do. The quesiton is, what can Greg do. When the draft happened a few years ago and we drafted Greg Oden, nobody was worrying about who the PG was then. It didn't matter. Greg Fucking Oden was coming to play here. If Greg Fucking Oden starts playing like Greg Fucking Oden, then Andre Fucking Miller is a sidenote.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    No, that's Blake's salary, not 'Law's.

    Outlaw is more like $3.5 mil. You just mixed up the two non-guaranteed guys.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Oops, my mistake. See, this is what happens when non-specialists dabble in technical fields.

    barfo
     
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    That depends on what type of math your using. When you're using "Barfo Math" it's all good! :ghoti:

    Yes, I did just get back from the brewfest? Any of you cats there tonight?
     

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