Hakim Warrick

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  1. Sug

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    The Grizz just took their offer off the table because they are going after AI. I think he might be an interesting fit as a backup PF. Maybe send Bayless to Memphis for a re-signed Warrick.
     
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    I thought he was a SF.
     
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    Warrick is a decent player. He's reached his prime and he's a little above average. I wouldn't trade Bayless for him, because I think Bayless has the talent to be significantly more above average.

    If they were interested in swapping Outlaw for Warrick, I'd be willing to do that. Outlaw is a bit worse, but potentially much cheaper as his deal is a bargain for his production.
     
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    Classic tweener. PF in a SF body.
     
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    Surprisingly better than I thought:

    One of only two players on the Memphis roster with a positive Roland Rating (and more than spot minutes):
    http://www.82games.com/0809/0809MEM.HTM
    really high draw foul rate and positive PER differential at the power forward spot:
    http://www.82games.com/0809/08MEM10.HTM
    Good PER and pretty decent Per36 numbers (for a backup) and played enough minutes that the sample size isn't bunk:
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/warriha01.html

    What would I trade for him? I'd probably do Outlaw straight across and maybe throw in a future second round pick.
     
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    Is this a trade situation? I thought that Memphis had withdrawn their qualifying offer so that they could use his salary to pay AI? If so, they wouldn't be interested in a S&T, would they?

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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I have no idea, I haven't paid any attention to what Memphis is up to aside from the unintentionally hilarious Zach trade.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Can we be sure it was unintentional? Perhaps they are gearing up for a show on Comedy Central. "The Memphis Grizzlies Live!"
    In which case they definitely need AI.

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    If that is true, I hope they sign Jalen Rose, too.
     
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    If you Warrick on the Blazers then you sir have a very low bball IQ.
     
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    You should really think about wiping that up with a kleenex next time.
     
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    What does Warrick really offer us that Outlaw doesn't? Lateral move, at best, on the court. Add in Outlaw's standing with out ream, and his chemistry, and it makes no sense to go after Warrick at the expense of Outlaw. Or, to go after him at all.
     
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    I see very little comparison between Warrick and Outlaw in terms of what they bring to a team. Both have positives, and both have negatives, but to assume that Warrick is an upgrade on Outlaw, when there games are so dissimilar, doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Warrick clutters the rim; Outlaw is primary a perimeter player.

    Warrick has an eFG% of 37% on anthing he takes outside of close range.

    http://www.82games.com/0809/08MEM10.HTM

    Outlaw has an eFG% of 48% on his jumpers, which comprise 4/5 of his attempts.

    http://www.82games.com/0809/08POR8.HTM

    Completely different players IMO.
     
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    It is a subtle difference for sure. Hakim is a better offensive rebounder, and plays a more inside game compared to Outlaw. I also believe that he would be a better on the ball defender at the PF spot compared to Travis. We all know that Travis gets a lot of his blocks off the ball. Hakim is better at drawing fouls as well. At the end of the day they are very close, and you make some solid points. We really need a better backup PF because that is where TO is going to play.
     
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    How they contribute is the point and at the end of the day they produce similar results. If TO is going to be a PF than we might want someone with a little bit more of a PF game, and I feel that Hakim is a little bit more of a PF compared to TO.
     
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    I would do it. He is Outlaw with better rebounding.
     
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