State of Greg Oden

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  1. Idog1976

    Idog1976 Well-Known Member

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    I will find it. You are wrong. It may take awhile. Roy and LMA went to the airport to meet both Durant and Oden. LMA liked Durant due to Texas connection. Roy wanted Oden. It's possible it was another news source but I thought it was Quick. I will find it to prove you wrong and then I will block your worthless posts that just tear others down.
     
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    I found this so far and still looking. It appears this article was removed from the Oregonian archives which is odd:

    http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=244&f=2866&t=636533

    and again Here

    http://forums.nykfp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=21758

    you will note that this article can't be found in the Oregonian archives which is strange and the link that site has is broken...

    It doesn't say who wanted which one, but it's pretty obvious who wanted who. I know you won't admit you are wrong. You never do, which is part of why I'm blocking you going forward, but it is clearly implicit in these statements that there was a divide between the two. LMA it is clear to me wanted his fellow longhorn.
    I'm still looking for the article by some Oregon sports write (could be Eggers or Holdahl or someone other then Quick).

    I will post it when I find it. Until then, seriously, post something worthhile and quit just living to tear down others it gets real old buddy.
     
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  3. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    I appreciate (okay, not really) you wasting your entire day searching for this evidence on this insignificant topic, but you've still failed to find an article that said Lamarcus wanted Durant and Roy wanted Oden.

    2nd, let's assume your ASSUMPTION is correct, and those are the players they were each leaning towards... That's all it says, LEANING TOWARDS. That hardly means their was a divide between the two, it could mean they're leaning 51% one way. Big deal, especially two years after the fact when the three of them get along just fine.

    And 3rd, it took me all of five minutes to find a similar statement in the oregonian archives:

    http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2007/06/cool_move_hot_topic.html

    I'm guessing research isn't your strongest trait. Could have saved you a few hours...

    Anyways, I'll let you get back to fighting the good fight. Pretty important stuff...
     
  4. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Actually, I remember reading somewhere LA wanted GO. He made some comments about comparing them two to Timmy and Robinson.
     
  5. Ed O

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    I don't blame him for finding an article that someone has called him a liar about. Whether it took him 5 minutes or two weeks doesn't really matter much, does it?

    Ed O.
     
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    So, the article stating that LMA definitely wanted Durant and the Roy definitely wanted Oden exists? I've yet to see it posted in this thread, or any thread.

    Boo-hoo, and a very nice meltdown. I have no clue who you are, and what you post, so I can't really say that I'll miss conversing with you. If you can't handle an opinion being challenged, perhaps it's time to take a break from the internet. :dunno:
     
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  7. PapaG

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    I've yet to see an article where LMA says he wanted Durant, and Roy says he wanted Oden.

    Period. I have not seen it. Find me those players saying this, and I'll take back my "liar" accusation. Pritchard pontificating on players "leaning" a certain way does nothing to prove the very strong assertion made about which of the then-rookies LMA and Roy wanted to see on the team.
     
  8. PapaG

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    You are saying that LMA definitely wanted Durant, and Roy wanted Oden. Prove it.

    As for blocking me, that's the coward's way out.
     
  9. Ed O

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    You need direct quotes of them saying that, but you bitched for two months about the Blazers suing the NBA and Memphis Grizzlies and whomever else.

    You need direct quotes of them saying that, but you have been complaining about how unfair the Blazers have been with Brandon Roy.

    OK. Whatever.

    It's clear to me that the article reported that LA preferred one of the two and Roy preferred another. It reported that Pritchard said that.

    Is the article lying? Maybe. Is KP? Perhaps.

    Is Idog lying? I don't think so. And if you're going to call another poster a liar and then are confronted with such clear evidence of what he was talking about, you should at least have the courage to admit that, while you might think he's mistaken, he's not a liar.

    Ed O.
     
  10. PapaG

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    What does that have to do with this situation? I wanted the Blazers to sue Memphis. That was my opinion.

    Yes, again, an opinion.

    Whatever indeed.

    Great. It doesn't mention which player was leaning which way. That's already been pointed out.

    LMA is leaning one way, Roy is leaning the other, says the GM who is about the vaguest guy in the NBA. If that is clear evidence, then I guess we have different interpretations on what defines clear evidence.

    Saying that LMA definitely wanted Durant, and that Roy wanted Oden, is a lie according to what is available in the public record. Is it an intentional lie? No, it appears to come from assumption, but the fact is there is no indication from either player who they wanted the team to draft.

    Dragging up my views on Memphis/Miles and the Roy contract negotiations are totally superfluous to the rest of your post, BTW. I thought you were better than that.
     
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    I really don't understand what people are getting so worked up about.

    I clearly remember LMA saying positive things about Durant.....and I don't know why anybody what consider that surprising or controversial. As to whether Roy expressed a preference for Oden - who cares? It wouldn't surprise me if he did - but what does it matter now?

    Right or wrong, the Blazers made the choice they did. The reasons no longer matter. We just have to hope it proves to be the right one. (and I say that as someone who was on the Durant bandwagon until Oden's impressive display at the combine finally seduced me)
     
  12. Idog1976

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    I Looked for awhile and can't find the article. I know I read it online. However, I feel the article I found shows that Roy wanted one player and LMA wanted another. Unfortunately, it's damn hard to find anything from that period of time (it was either summer 2007 or 2008) due to the Oden and Durant keywords bringing up about 9,000 hits and none of the other keywords I can find bring it up. It's strange that they changed the article and reworded it. I am not going to waste anymore of my time looking for this article as it is much harder to find. Hurakane seems to remember it so that at least makes me feel better that I didn't imagine it. The article I am recalling was some kind of in depth thing that I swore quick wrote where Aldridge and Roy drove to the airport to pick up Oden and both were excited and LMA said he wanted Durant and Roy was saying what about Oden though? They bantered about it and supposedly LMA changed his mind after meeting Oden and agreed with Roy that Oden was the choice. The assumption I made, and I will own this, is WHY Roy didn't want Durant. In the now infamous article that I can't find he quite clearly wanted Oden but the reason was not given. I made an assumption that it was due to touches and it IS an assumption. I've wasted enough time on this.

    I'm sure you feel that you were correct as I couldn't find that article. I admit I could not find the article I remember (which is odd) and it certainly doesn't appear in the archives that I could find. So you win the "you can't find that specific article" part if you like. On the other hand the article I DID find shows quite clearly that Pritchard said Roy wanted one player and Durant the other. If that doesn't satisfy you that's fine. Thankfully for me I won't have to read your stuff anymore Papag. Maybe if I see someone respond to something you say that is interesting I will unblock to read it and leave you unblocked. By the way since I Un-blocked Odenisgod you are now the sole member of my block party. Enjoy it, I know I will.
     
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    Yeah, I don't really get it either. Not a fan of being called a liar is all. If he had said your memory is poor (which might be the case) that's one thing. Saying I'm spreading lies, to me is quite another. I shouldn't have gotten heated about it clearly.
     
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    I was harsh by saying you were spreading lies. I apologize for doing so. Stating that one player wanted Durant, and the other wanted Oden, seemed like a bigger deal to me at the time than it is in reality. It didn't happen, but I can see how someone could take KP's quote and attach an assumptive meaning to it.

    Enjoy ODENISGOD, seems like a logical person to Un-block, and please keep me updated on your blocking and Un-blocking activities. In the meantime, I'll be awaiting your next adventure in Imaginary Trade Land! :cheers:
     

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