Yeah, total dirt cheap move by Cohan. But, 1.6M is still 1.6M. It should count towards something. Probably the wrong thing, but it will count towards something.
Well, that will probably goes to Cohan's pocket, and that will help him fighting against IRS, since he does have a problem with tax. Cohan really didn't shy away from spending $ till last year, but I guess tough economy is hitting Cohan as well...
Has anybody listened to the audio of the Larry Riley interview with Tim Roye? Wow... Larry Riley sounds like a complete idiot in this interview. He talks up Devean George as a "proven winner" and a "defensive presence" who will strengthen the team defense. Riley says George fills a "need" at the 3 spot. He then thanks Bellinelli for his contribution, but says that's just part of the situation (like "we're sorry to see you go, but we really need Devean George to fill a hole on our team). He also says George brings the "veteran leadership that we need." the audio is here: http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/warriors_acquire_devean_george.html I am sorry, because Larry Riley seems like a nice guy, but the other GMs around the league are looking at this and thinking "wow, this Larry Riley sure is a real knucklehead, isn't he?" It really seems like Riley is just in way over his head. He is probably just in Cohan's little circle of trust, with Robert "doosh-bag" Rowell," and they know that since they can control him and that he has no wits, he is their perfect employee. Once Mullin started to get a bit of independence in his job, they tossed him. Riley is a yes man and that's all that Cohan wants. Well, that and money.
Lol at "need" at the 3 (like Nelson is so set to use traditional line up), "proven winner" (Horry is still available), "defensive presence" (Did you watch Warriors-Dallas PO couple years ago?) or "veteranl leadership" (Just because you are a vet, that doesn't mean you have a leadership!). When was the last time Nelson actually played a "defenisve stopping" wing player, who is liable at offense? Such a cookie cutter answer. Well, I guess it's one of GM's job, but... Man, this starts to remind me Twerdzik era...
I think politically, he has to talk him up. What GM comes out and says "this was purely a financial move?" Not many. Riley is pretty savvy and says the politically correct thing. Just because he's saying he's a proven winner, does not mean he will actually play. He's just sugarcoating a pure financially motivated move with some basketball talk. Now, I don't really know the benefits of it, but I think it's better than saying it was a money move and nothing less.
You hit the nail on the head. While other owners are looking for ways to avoid the luxury tax and circumvent the CAP, Cohan is ok for dumping a talented guy that he and Riley think we don't need for cash that does nothing but help himself out. It still hurts the team the same as far as cap goes, but Totonto foots the bill. See above. If it gave the organization flexibility in the CAP, then an honest GM can say just that. But since this only put cash back in the owners pocket, the only thing he can do is lie through his teeth
You need not worry about what the other GMs around and thinking just because of this move. Elton Brand rejected us. Al Harrington rejected us. Amare Stoudemire rejected us. Chris Bosh will probably reject us if we ever get close with Toronto. Good teams would have been able to extend Marco and then deal him later if he didn't fit into plans. At least we got cap space, but it's not going to do us too much good in the free agent market. It would be better to package it in a trade for a still young, quality PF/C type player.
I'd actually say it like this "Right, we didn't get cap space. Cohan got money to pay for the salary against the cap space."
Yeah, it does absolutely nothing for the Warrior's positioning in trades and/or FA. It does not help GS cap at all. The only -- only -- benefit is that Cohan puts some spare change in his pocket. Well, that and the fact that George is a proven winner who will bring solid defense and veteran leadership to the locker-room, filling a desperate need for the Warriors. Also, the Warriors benefit by making more room for Morrow to play, because, obviously, if Bellinelli were still on the team, he would physically stand in the way of Morrow stepping on the court, trying to tackle him or trip him on his way to the scorer's table, and thus Morrow would not get to play as much.
Oh man... My thoughts exactly. This is all Rowell and Cohan's fault. Why do we support these assholes? There should be a recall on owners and all their sycophants.
Welcome back Garry St. Jean? I don't think this is a horrible trade. I don't think Marco would have played a whole lot this season anyway, especially with the shape he is in now. So I can see what Riley is saying. Perhaps George gets a couple more minutes than Marco on this team. I really don't think this trade helps or hurts this team this season. In the future it might tough. The downside is that if Marco were in shape he has perhaps more trade value than George does, which is perhaps the opportunity cost of this trade. But from the videos I have seen Marco does not look in shape at all. I suppose there is some time to change that from July until October, but still, it brought up some concerns.
It's the cap space we get when George's contract expires in 2010 (assuming we don't extend him). I thought George would have been bought out, but instead we are keeping him. I should have said expiring contract and it's something we can use in trade. I lean for a trade instead of getting the cap space in 2010 because great free agents aren't going to come to Warriorland. EDIT: The cap for 2009 - 2010 is $57.7 M. According to Hoopshype salaries, the Warriors will be at $49,357,229 after Speedy and George contracts expire.
Bellinelli has a team option for 2010 so he is also an expiring contract for all intents and purposes.
I can't see good free agents wanting to come here in 2010. They'll just use the Warriors to up the offers.
There's no point in keeping Beli as an expiring unless PHX really wanted him in the Amare trade. We were already crowded in the backcourt.
I haven't seen Marco this season. Is he still out of shape? The George deal doesn't sound that bad if Marco was still out of shape.
The idea is that, since Bellinelli & George both are "expiring" contracts, George doesn't offer any more cap relief than Bellinelli would have. So we don't get any 2010 cap space with this trade at all.
