Mavs' Griffin may be odd man out

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    See that's the problem with some guys, it's all about the stats.Are you going to tell me DA isn't valuable to this team at all?I seem to remember a stretch of games where Dallas was down big in several games back to back or over a small span of time, when DA was the guy who would come in and turn the game around for us.That's his energy, experience, and tenacity that did it...and this was when Harris wasn't hurt.You go on and on about plus/minus and stats, but look at the team and the makeup.All of the guys on the team are important, Dirk, Terry, and Howard are the most important guys(and Harris for the SA series mainly), while the rest of the guys are just about as important as the rest of the team.Some provide scoring, some defense, some leadership, and some just to set picks and be decoys.
     
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    It's all about the winning and Harris's absence has caused the mavs to slump. The point guard is the most important position for the mavs and most teams. Even a backup point guard missing has effected Dallas. Darrell Armstrong though is a tough guy has really been a disappointment this year. He is too likeable to be criticized but his game is nothing what it used to be with the exception of a couple games.
     
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    The injuries to 4 key players as a whole caused us to slump. Remember when we first lost all these guys, our play didn't drop off for a while, then it hit rock bottom with 3 strait losses, and that was with ALL four guys out, not just Harris.And yeah, Armstrong has lost a step, but that doesn't make him a dissapointment. He's the 3rd string PG, how many other teams have backups as good DA? Not many.It's not cause he's likeable that he's not critisized, it's because he does turn around alot of games when he comes in, and bring leadership and experience to the table.That's just as important in most cases as Harris.Now let me be clear, he's not as good as Harris, talent wise. But he is an important cog in this team.It just seems like you want 6 guys playing and that's it. And we simply can't do that. Why don't you realize, we have a deep and talented team that just about everyone is as important as the next guy, minus Dirk, Terry, and Howard?C'mon man, you've turned this into me not liking Harris, or thinking other guys are better than him, when I'm just making you realize that almost all the guys are importan to the team, and you think only a few of them are, and mostly the younger guys, and that's simply not true.
     
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    I picked what I think are the top 6 players on the team. Armstrong as a 3rd string point guard I'm fine with. I just think you are underrating Harris this year. The Mavs record without Harris and everyone else healthy isn't that great either. Here is my playoff rotation if everyone is healthy and 100%Diop 20minutes/Dampier 28minutesNowitzki 40 minutes/Powell 8 minutesHoward 40 minutes/Griffin 8 minutesStackhouse 20 minutes/Terry 12 minutes/Daniels 12 minutesTerry 24 minutes/Harris 24 minutes. Against Phoenix I would do it differently.Diop 20 minutes/Nowitzki 20 minutes/Powell 8 minutesNowitzki 20 minutes/Howard 28 minutesHoward 12 minutes/Daniels 36 minutesStackhouse 28 minutes/Terry 12 minutes/Griffin 8 minutesPG Terry 24 minutes/Harris 24 minutes
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Here is my playoff rotation if everyone is healthy and 100%Diop 20minutes/Dampier 28minutesNowitzki 40 minutes/Powell 8 minutesHoward 40 minutes/Griffin 8 minutesStackhouse 20 minutes/Terry 12 minutes/Daniels 12 minutesTerry 24 minutes/Harris 24 minutes. Against Phoenix I would do it differently.Diop 20 minutes/Nowitzki 20 minutes/Powell 8 minutesNowitzki 20 minutes/Howard 28 minutesHoward 12 minutes/Daniels 36 minutesStackhouse 28 minutes/Terry 12 minutes/Griffin 8 minutesPG Terry 24 minutes/Harris 24 minutes</div>Good job wasting your time writing out all the minutes and rotation YOU think it will be. Seriously Avery decides the rotation and minutes, why are you bothering writing that <Censored> out.
     
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    I wrote it out to show that I don't just play the top 6 players that marvinmartian claimed I did. I utilize the bench since that is our strength. Plus I enjoy being GM. lol
     
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    I'm not underrating Harris, and I know he's the x-factor in the SA series...but besides that series, he's just as important as Daniels, Damp, Diop, Stack and Griffin to me.Which isn't a bad thing...it's actually a nice thing to say, that he's as valuable as those guys, especially since 1 is a starter.
     
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    In that group here is how I would rank it.1. Harris2. Dampier3. Diop4. Daniels5. Stackhouse6. GriffinThey are all important but that is the order I put them in.
     
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    See, and I'd disagree with you right there.Damp and Diop are so much more important to the success of this team, just defensively, than Harris is, and with Diop being a starter, and Damp getting starters minutes, that's not a bad thing.If I had to rank him, Harris would be behind Damp and Diop.
     
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    I think point guard defense is very important and the offensive flow from the point guard is huge. It depends on the matchup though. Against San Antonio they are equally important. Against Phoenix Harris is more important.
     
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    See and I think Harris is more important against SA than the other two, but throughout the playoffs as a whole, I think Diop and Damp providing an interior presence is more important than a backup PG.
     
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    I just don't like Terry playing point guard full time. He has been slipping on defense lately since he has more duties at playing point guard and his fatigue is showing. Harris relieves a lot of those duties and Terry will only have to run the team for 24 minutes instead of 38-40 minutes. Daniels' point guard skills aren't quite there.
     

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