Miller Expects to start

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  1. PapaG

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  2. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    agreed.
     
  3. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    You posted in the other thread, so obviously you already knew or had an out of body experience.
     
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    What's your point? This thread didn't mention Blake at all, and where either player was at. You said you didn't know where either was at until you read this thread, but there was no mention of Blake, and noo mention of where either was at within this thread.
     
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    Oh, this thread pertains to Miller specifically. Perhaps others hadn't read the other thread. I'd say I'm sorry this bothers you, but I'm not.
     
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    I confused myself with the other thread. It happens. What is important is that we dwell on it.

    Now I'm even more confused, though, because Erroneous Subterfuge said we all know where Blake and Miller are, yet that information wasn't available in this thread until I posted it. What if somebody missed the other thread?
     
  7. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    wow.. glad to see that most of us in here are on the same menstrual cycle. ;)
     
  8. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    Nothing you say ever "bothers me" since we all know all you do is pick fights and argue about worthless shit. I just like to, on occasion, write sarcastic comments. I have to admit you have talent, I mean you've actually made a debate about whether or not you already knew something despite documented evidence to the contrary. Realizing that you've lost that battle, you're switching from, "I didn't know until I read this thread", to "What if somebody missed the other thread?" :lol:
     
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    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Wow. Did you even see any of the Sixers playoff games? He was easily the second best player on his team. 21 ppg, 5.3 apg, 6.5 rpg. .475 shooting. His problem doesn't seem to be performing in the playoffs.

    His problem is that he's had pretty crappy teammates over his career, he can't hit a three pointer and his defense is getting worse.

    He can't do anything about bad past teammates.

    If he can't hit a three pointer by now, I doubt he ever will (I guess you could argue that he could pull a Jason Kidd. But the odds aren't good.) If he does really want to improve three point shooting, he can practice that on his own.

    His defense is getting worse because he's getting older and slower.

    The guy is an NBA ironman health-wise. He's easily fit in everywhere he's gone except the Clippers. This will be his 5th different stop. He probably knows the drill by now of how to make it work on a new team.
     
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    I dunno. I was discussing Miller's offseason activities and how they could have impacted his previous teams. You posted something completely unrelated to those discussions. Seems like you had the worthless aside. :dunno:

    I have no problem with sarcastic comments. I do wonder why I am "picking fights", however, when you directly posted to me about something unrelated to the topic at hand. You write "sarcastic comments". I "pick fights". Nice logic.

    Which debate did I lose? That people reading this thread may not know the Blake is at the PF, and that Miller is not at the PF? I think I won that debate. I admitted I got confused in which thread I was posting, but still, your initial "sarcastic comment" makes even less sense in that context. :dunno:
     
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    I'm not saying that what Miller is doing, or rather not doing, is a bad thing. The results in his career thus far, however, certainly don't validate that his offseason approach leads to postseason success.
     
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    I'm just curious what the point behind your post was. Do you feel that Blake being at the practice facility gives him a leg up on winning the job? Do you feel because of that time spent, he will have a better chance at making people look better through our offense or a better chance of running the offense? It was stated in a way to imply criticism of Miller, and praise for Blake, yet you distanced yourself from that, and said you were merely stating where they were at.
     
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    It's a minor criticism of Miller, and I have no problem saying this. I also don't think it means anything in terms of who wins the starting spot. I think Miller will win it, and if he does, I have absolutely no problem with it. That said, I imagine he will show up over the next few weeks in order to get a head start on the season. The apparent fact that he does this every offseason, however, does trouble me a bit since he has not won with this approach. I am merely offering my observations, and with all of the defense of the "Miller approach", the bottom-line is that he simply has not won. Is it because of this approach? Who knows? Would working out in the summer make him injury-prone? Perhaps. I have an opinion, and I don't find it particularly inflammatory or unreasonable.
     
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    He also hasn't won an MVP award, a defensive player of the year award or the Powerball Lottery with his offseason approach either.

    Causation or correlation? You decide.
     
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    Or neither.
     
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    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    No, there's clearly a correlation. He has a certain practice routine in the summer. He fails in the playoffs. He doesn't win the league MVP. He doesn't win the Powerball lottery. Lots of correlations.

    The question is if he did his summer routine differently, would he win more playoff games, an MVP award and the Powerball Lottery? Does his summer activities cause these other results?
     
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    So let me get this straight. Everybody is pretty much on the same page with Miller. Great upgrade. But there is ONE PERSON who will be drinking HATORADE all season!
     
  18. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    Kevin Garnett always worked out very hard in the offseason, never helped him much in Minnesota. By your "logic" he maybe should have switched it up and taken it easy in the offseason, try a new approach and all. But no, what changed was his team, not his routine. Miller is currently the iron man in the NBA and he's produced on the floor. To suggest he needs to be at the PF now because he hasn't won anything in the past is unreasonable. He already knows our offense inside and out, as evidenced by his interview with Nate during the summer. ;)
     
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    Well, the only one I care about is winning in the postseason, so you can continue to comment on your red herrings.

    Not working out in the summer = no playoff series won in career. That's my focus. Discuss it, or continue to throw out ridiculous asides that take the focus off of the bolded statement.

    So, it's correlation in that regard. The "neither" was for the silly Powerball example, since that is based on luck and not effort.
     
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    I'm not saying anything about what Miller should do, just the team results of what he has done has yielded. You get this, right?
     

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