Top 30 Current Players

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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    on the all-time NBA top 250 scoring leaders list. Very Interesting!
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_career.html

    1-Shaq
    2-A.I.
    3-Kobe
    4-KG
    5-Ray Allen
    6-Duncan
    7-Dirk
    8-Pierce
    9-Vince
    10-T-Mac
    11-Finley
    12-Marbury
    13-A. Jamison
    14-Stackhouse
    15-Juwan Howard
    16-J Kidd
    17- Sheed
    18-Grant Hill
    19-Nash
    20-Rip Hamilton
    21-The Matrix
    22-Biby
    23-Rashard Lewis
    24-Lebron
    25-Jason Terry
    26-E. Brand
    27-Billups
    28-Peja
    29-Cuttino Mobley
    30-Andre Miller

    We just signed 2 of 'em and I think 'Bron will retire the all-time leader!
     
  2. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Thats RIGHT.. 2 of em B*tches! I dont know about Bron Bron catching Kareem though.
     
  3. BlazerFanForLife

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    I dont see Bron catching Kareem the man hold these records...
    Holds NBA career record for:
    Most points (38,387)
    Most minutes played (57,446)
    Most field goals made (15,837)
    Most field goals attempted (28,307)
    Most All-Star selections (19)
    Most All-Star games played (18)
     
  4. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Our bench will be awesome with Howard and Miller.
     
  5. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    I used to get annoyed by your repetition of this line. At this point I'm just kind of embarrassed for you. I hate seeing somebody I generally like reading spiraling so far into the land of broken records.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Your words comfort me.


    How about this. Right now, we know Howard will be a bench player. We also have no idea who the starting PG is going to be, but the early favorite would have to be Blake because Nate has said he does not want to mess with a 54 win team.

    Is that fair?
     
  7. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    It's true: a Miller/Rudy/Webster/Howard/Oden 2nd unit is pretty good. With Travis as the 11th-man designated gunner. :)
     
  8. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    say it 11 posts in a row.. and that will be the MM I have grown to know recently ;)
     
  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I think Miller will be a huge contributing factor this season. Howard, I'm not so sure...
     
  10. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    on the court from him? not at all. But the improvements in the mentality of our bigs I think we will see it from them, and he will help with that.
     
  11. graybeard

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    MM, your Nate hate has clouded your brain. Yes, Nate said that the incumbents will have their jobs going into the season, which is the way it should be. However, that could change after the first practice if Nate decides another player is better at a position. What is so hard to understand about that? Stop the Nate hate, it is getting tiring and detracts from your normally intelligent posts.

    The Sonics are no longer our rivals, so it's okay to accept Mr. Sonic. He's one of us, deal with it.
     
  12. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Nate says things he doesn't mean (or changes his mind about later). At this point it doesn't matter what he says about the lineup.

    barfo
     
  13. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

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    I was surprised to see Dirk so high, he could have quite a few years of high scoring left, especially being more of a jump shooter who doesn't rely on athleticism. Most of the other top scorer's outside of Kobe are getting up there in years.
     
  14. MrJayremmie

    MrJayremmie Well-Known Member

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    Well Kobe is in his 30s, so he is gettin' up there as well. And he came right from High school, so his body has more wear and tear on it than others.
     
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    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    He averages 25 a game on only 36 minutes, so that tear isn't bad for his age.

    Kobe's about a year behind Bron's pace, so he's not doing too bad even though he didn't get as many garbage buckets.

    If he plays long enough I could see him being 3-1 easily on this list.
     
  16. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Why do you think James gets more "garbage buckets"? I'm not saying he does not. I just don't know where you get that from.

    LeBron has played for teams that tend to be very slow paced. I don't think that Kobe has had that handicap.

    Ed O.
     
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    Draco Well-Known Member

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    Well of course nobody on the list is young... But Kobe is not old when comparing him to Shaq, AI, KG, Allen, Duncan.
     
  18. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    LeBron uses much more shot clock per possession (usage rate is not a measure of that) than any other player in the NBA which circumnavigates the PER formula; Kobe doesn't have that handicap. People should become more familiar with the nuances of per before commenting on how efficiently one uses time.

    James didn't have to earn starter's minutes from the beginning of his career. Kobe was coming off the bench for a deep backcourt on a winning team. Hence the somewhat low minutes for a star such as himself, had he averaged 38 minutes a game the record would probably be out of reach. Because you're not going to average 30+ a game with an in his prime Shaq, and Kobe draws more FTs without Shaq. Per is sacrificed along with any stat in that kind of winning situation.
     
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  19. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Yeah he wasn't terribly overused coming out of Highschool either. Then during his third season there was that NBA lockout thing. :]
     
  20. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't understand why any of that has to do with "garbage buckets".

    Ed O.
     

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