so what did Iraq have to do with 9/11 then? Other then being a country at the time. The people on the plans were (mostly) Saudi's, and if you know middle east history, the clique they belonged to were not exactly friends with Saddam. Unless you're going on the fact they were both evil people (Saddam and OBL and Al Qaeda). Al Q didn't have anything to do with Iraq, and it wasn't until we gave them reason to, that they showed up there.
Yes. Especially if it turns out that a lot of the information you were "given" was easily debunked and you didn't do your due diligence to find out on your own.
It wasn't a lie. Every intelligence agency on the planet believed it to be true. And once again, I left off the smiley, lol...
not every intelligence agency on the planet thought it was true. I thought of something. Let's assume you believe what you just said...let's say that Obama believes what he said is true (about illegals, etc) and told us...is Joe Wilson right that he lied?
Good point. But I, for one, am convinced that Obama knew what he said was at best an intentional distortion, and at worst an out-and-out lie.
good point?!? GOOD POINT!?!??! Sir, this is an online pissing contest...how dare you be civil in our discussion!!
no, in that case he absolutely didn't lie and joe wilson would certainly be incorrect in saying that he did. a false statement isn't a lie. a lie is telling someone a false statement when you know that it's false. in the case of wmds, i don't think bush was lying at all.
Yes, we may have to ban you for that. There are three acceptable responses to a good point: 1) change the subject 2) repeat your claim, but in BOLD 3) pretend you were joking Under no circumstances should you ever grant a point, and of course it goes without saying that the words "I was wrong about that" must never appear in any post. barfo
Your forgot ... 4) Act as though the good point was exactly the point you were trying to make and that your opponent haplessly stumbled upon it thanks to your superior intellect and discussion guidance.
This is his FAVORITE thing to do, so he can then wet himself over his "I went to the University of Chicago and was on the board with David Brooks, WAH!" garbage. Nobody cares that you are so full of yourself. All that money wasted on education and non the smarter for it.
Not everyone who is right of center is a Republican. I'm surprised someone who hates intellectualism like I clearly do has to explain that simple point to you. I wasn't the one who made the accusation of hating people who were "smart" or "educated". You're two graduate degrees short of me. Where did you obtain your graduate degrees and what were they. I look forward to you proving how much smarter and more educated you are.
Get over me. First, I didn't pay for any of my graduate studies. Second, why does discussing my background when it's germaine to the conversation make me "full of [myself]? It's just stating a fact. I was told I hated smart and educated people, yet I have chosen to spend my life surrounded by the very people that poster claimed I despised.
I never said I was exceptional. That's your supposition. Additionally, you're working in imperfect information. Why don't you as B&S the context of my offhanded comment about David Brooks came from? Do you always arrive at conclusions before not knowing the facts? Boy, that doesn't seem very "smart" or "educated" to me.
Leaving out the supreme court appointees, all of whom are harvard or yale attendees... These guys off the top of my head. Newt Gingrich http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich He received a B.A. degree from Emory University in Atlanta in 1965. He received an M.A. in 1968, and then a Ph.D. in Modern European History from Tulane University in New Orleans in 1971.[4] His dissertation topic was Belgian Education policy in Africa. Gingrich taught history at the University of West Georgia in Carrollton, Georgia, from 1970 to 1978. He also taught a class, Renewing American Civilization, at Kennesaw State University in 1993 Dick Armey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Armey He graduated from Jamestown College and then received a master's degree from the University of North Dakota and a Ph.D. from the University of Oklahoma. Armey was an economics professor at North Texas State University (now the University of North Texas) in Denton. Phil Gramm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Gramm Gramm attended public schools, graduated 1961 from Georgia Military Academy ( now Woodward Academy), and graduated 1964 from the University of Georgia.[1] Gramm received his doctorate in economics from the University of Georgia in 1967. He then taught economics at Texas A&M University from 1967 to 1978. Rudy Giuliani http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani Giuliani went on to Manhattan College in Riverdale, Bronx, where he majored in political science with a minor in philosophy.[11] There he considered becoming a priest,[11] after having studied theology for four years in college. [12] He was elected president of his class in his sophomore year, but was not re-elected in his junior year.[11] He joined the Phi Rho Pi fraternity, and was active in shaping its direction.[11] He graduated in 1965. Giuliani eventually decided to forego the priesthood,[11] instead attending New York University School of Law in Manhattan, where he made law review[11] and graduated cum laude with a Juris Doctor in 1968.[13] Mitt Romney http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney Subsequently, Romney attended Brigham Young University, where he graduated as valedictorian, earning his Bachelor of Arts degree summa cum laude in English in 1971. Romney received a ministerial deferment from the military draft while in France, and three years of deferments while a student. When he became eligible for military service in 1970, his high number in the annual draft lottery meant he would not be drafted.[9] In 1975, Romney graduated from a joint Juris Doctor/Master of Business Administration program coordinated between Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School. He graduated cum laude from the law school and was named a Baker Scholar for graduating in the top five percent of his business school class.
