Did The Blazers Engage In "Tank n' Draft" Practices?

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  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    nope... we were actually THAT BAD when we got the # 4 pick :D
     
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    We didn't tank to get that first high lottery pick. That was pure incompetence. But after we were that bad, we stayed bad maybe a little longer than was absolutely necessary.

    Pritchard is a really good GM, but you have to admit we were pretty lucky too. The Oden pick was such a longshot, and we were lucky enough to have high picks in two drafts where there were star-caliber players to be had.
     
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    .....and gm's to be slapped.
     
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    The year we had the worst record in the league, I do believe we did. The other years I think had more to do with a crappy front office then intentional tanking.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    The year we had the worst team in the league coincided with what most people believed was one of the weaker drafts in recent memory. If this team was truly guilty of tanking for the draft they would have done it for the Durant/Oden sweepstakes the next year.

    We just sucked ass in 06
     
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    I don't think so. But who really knows.
     
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    Everyone knows, if you want to tank for the top pick, the 4th worst record is the place to be!
     
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    Pritchard's 2006 draft was perhaps the best of the last decade in the NBA. Turning the #4 pick and Sebastian Telfair into Roy and LMA was simply stunning.

    As for "tanking", that Blazer team was miserable. That line-up at the end of the year was brutal. Are any of the players from that line-up contributing to an NBA team at this point?

    Take a look at the line-ups that team was throwing out at the end of the season prior to the Roy/LMA draft.



    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/POR/2006_start.html
     
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  11. ABM

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    I thought Jarrett got us Bayless?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Jarret Jack, Viktor Khryapa same diff.
     
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  13. MrSelfDestruct

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    It did. We traded Telfair to eventually net us Roy.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Hardly.
     
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    correct. he also got me excited, and then depressed numerous times.
     
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    true, we could have tanked in 07 and nobody would have noticed, but we overachieved to the 8th spot or so.
     
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    It is ridiculous to think we tanked, especially in 05-06. That team was absolutely terrible.
     
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    They sure did.

    I don't think the players tanked. But John Nash did blow up the team which caused the tanking. Then Pritchard came in to draft. And Pitch was masterful in getting two franchise players in one draft to accelerate the rise.
     
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    I seem to remember the "Black Saturday" game of April 2007, where we defeated the Sonics in Seattle, much to the chagrin of the "we gotta tank!!" crowd (granted, I was on Olive at the time, so the intellect level was probably lower than here). We ended up at 32-50, I game better than Seattle (31-51) and tied with Minny. The screaming of the "I told you we shoulda tanked!" when the Sonics got a few more pingpong balls, until we won the coin flip with Minny and ended up with Honk Once.
     
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    There are two ways to tank. 1) play lesser players from your squad to in effect, give the game away. 2) Formulate a strategy where you trade players that may be beneficial in the short term for assets that will hopefully be beneficial in the future, be they players, picks or money off the books. I think that the Blazers never participated in the first method but they did the second. This might not even be called tanking because the point is not to lose, but to better position yourself for the future. But the short-term result of trading away today's assets for tomorrows is that you do tend to lose in the immediate.
     
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