Dirk not tough enough?

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  1. jkidd51524

    jkidd51524 BBW Elite Member

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    I was watching the Suns-Mavs game last night, and I saw Dirk getting pushed around by Raja Bell and Tim Thomas. Dirk isnt strong to the basket, isnt a strong rebounder. I think Dirk is a little to weak. If he couldnt shoot he would be another Michael Bradley.
     
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    i dont think dirk is too weak, what thomas did was a cheap shot at his face. he still ended up with 36 points and 11 rebounds. For most of the season he has been able to take small players in the post and score. he has been able to drive at will when his shot isnt falling. only one that gave him problems was bowen. of course none of this matters unless he shows up in the playoffs.
     
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    Hes 7 foot and you never see him slam it on people. If you play cheap on him and get him agravated, you will take him out of the game and he will do horrible. Like Bowen does to him. To me, Dirk is just to soft. With his size he should be in the paint all the time. Instead hes always out on the 3 point line.
     
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    just because he plays to his strengths doesnt mean he is a soft player. if you made him a full time on the block player, he wouldnt not be as good as he is. Although he is 7 foot tall, he really doesnt have a real wide frame like Tim Duncan or Shaq. it doesnt matter if he dunks it, lays it up, or what as long as it goes in. You dont see Tim Duncan dunk it everytime down court, but you wouldnt call him soft. And i'm not sure on this, but to me it seems logical. if he is dunking the ball all the time, it makes his legs tired, and his shot starts coming up short by the 4th quarter. Last night when he got aggravated in the 3rd quarter, thats when he started playing better. he started driving the ball and scoring and got to the line.
     
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    Posting people up tires him as well. Other players leaning on you is physically draining. It would be easier for Dirk to sprint down the court than to post up.
     
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    It's not that Dirk is weak, it's simply not his game. So when someone pushes him out of the post, Dirk doesn't fight back because he's rather have the ball on the perimiter. If he wanted the ball in the post, he'd fight for it, but Dirk is a finesse-outside shooter. He's not going to fight hard to get the ball in situations he isn't as good in (The post)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pjcolpitts @ Apr 14 2006, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>just because he plays to his strengths doesnt mean he is a soft player. if you made him a full time on the block player, he wouldnt not be as good as he is. Although he is 7 foot tall, he really doesnt have a real wide frame like Tim Duncan or Shaq. it doesnt matter if he dunks it, lays it up, or what as long as it goes in. You dont see Tim Duncan dunk it everytime down court, but you wouldnt call him soft. And i'm not sure on this, but to me it seems logical. if he is dunking the ball all the time, it makes his legs tired, and his shot starts coming up short by the 4th quarter. Last night when he got aggravated in the 3rd quarter, thats when he started playing better. he started driving the ball and scoring and got to the line.</div>Exactly, because he got agreesive and attacked the basket like he always should.
     
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    Dirk should only get to the basket if the players disrespect his driving ability by not giving him any room. Otherwise he is more comfortable shooting that midrange if given enough room.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I think Dirk is a little to weak. If he could shoot he would be another Michael Bradley.</div> :HAHAHA: After that, I could care less what you say Jkidd. I guess you missed the times when Dirk took it to Marion who was draped on him. And Bowen sure stopped Dirk last game.
     
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    I typoed sorry i ment couldnt. And i was exadrating a little lol.
     
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    whats up with every1 hating on Dirk, the guy avgs a double double. he can be as weak as he wants to be, i can care less when he puts up these kind of numbers. Two points is two points, whether you slam it down or hit a jump shot. Are you saying you wouldnt want a 7footer who can shoot 3's and post up on your team??
     
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    Dirk isn't soft at all. People think that regular 7 footers should be more active in the paint, getting scrappy rebounds, easy baskets, etc. But in Dirk's case, thats not his game, even if he is a 7 footer. His game is trying to create his own shot and also manage to grab rebounds. Just because a 7 footer like Dirk can shoot 3s and not be active in the paint doesnt mean he's soft.
     
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    I really can't believe people are still having this discussion with Dirk.He's not a bangin on the block 7 footer, he's a versatile shoot from outside, take it to the hole, and post up smaller guys. He's not weak, like someone said, it's just not his game.Oh and that whole small guys bother him <Censored> is old now. It happened in the playoffs last year, and just ONCE against Bowen this year. The other 3 games against the Spurs, Dirk went off, just as he did against Marion(who also supposedly causes Dirk problems) in all 4 games.Some people just don't like him, 1 cause he's a Euro, and 2 cause he's a 7 footer who doesn't like the post. So people already have a bias against him, and it makes it easy for them to call Dirk weak.The guy is going to be top 3 in MVP voting, and is a 25 and 10 guy...actually he averages 30 and 10 since the all star break.The guys isn't weak, as a matter of fact the guy KNOWS his game better than alot of guys know their own. He does what he knows he can, and if his shot isn't falling the guy gets to the basket and the FT line.I mean there are tons of guys who try to do things they aren't good at...and some people are calling Dirk out for actually KNOWING his game.This is just ridiculous.
     
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    Also having a 7 footer take a big away from the basket helps out the spacing for slashers like Josh Howard to get room for easy baskets. Playing a small against Dirk is the best way to guard him though I have to admit. It forces Dirk to post up and that is not his game but he has gotten better at it.
     
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    Since when was Dirk a weak rebounder? I mean, he'll be guarding players far from the basket on numerous plays, and he still averages 9 RPG! Alrite, 9 RPG is down from 9.7 from last season, but he's averaging 29-10 since the All-Star Break, I think.Here, this is why Dirk dominates with driving and shooting...http://www.nba.com/games/20060227/PHIDAL/recap.htmlBoth plays are in the beginning of the clip, so just watch Dirk's great slam.Plus, Dirk shoots 48% from the field, 90% from the line, and 41% from beyond the ark! And somebody said Bowen owned Dirk. I'm not sure if that was sarcasm of not, but Dirk shot around 45% on Bowen this season.
     

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