Hollinger Projected PER Rankings

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  1. number 10

    number 10 Our Savior

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    Sure he believes in it, just not with 100% accuracy. I've noticed that in some of his player profiles, he'll comment on other factors (injuries, playing time, strange coaching decisions) that might be misleading the system.
     
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    Well this is coming from a true "Blazer Homer", but I think LMA and Roy will be making the Hollinger top 10 next season. Those two look awesome and a year wiser. If the Blazers can make it to the WCF this season, I suspect respect will be deserved. :clap:
     
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    Using a mathmatical model to project human performance is never an exact science. The model may be "right" for most players (eg his projection that Blake and Joel will regress) - but there will always be some players outside the norm.

    Would you have more confidence in Hollinger if he didn't admit that?
     
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    Obviously it isn't an exact science. And I know he would admit that. I never brought up anything expecting "exactness", or even being "right".

    I was responding to the claim that using the statement "Hollinger expects" was so much different than "Hollinger's model predicts". If he won't standby his model enough to substitute the words "model predicts" with "expects", then we shouldn't even be wasting our time by discussing the model or its predictions.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Actually, based on your first sentence, I think he may be wrong about Blake (and possibly Joel). His PER formula makes adjustments for pace and minutes played. So, while Blake (and Joel) will probably see reduced minutes this season, I'm not so sure that his actual PER will decrease. If Blake plays most of his minutes against other back-up PGs, his PER may actually go up, even though his per game points and assists might go down.

    Also, Hollinger uses historical data based on similar players at similar ages. If there's one thing Blake has shown it's that he's a MUCH harder than average worker. Most guys with Blake's natural talent are lucky to even get drafted, let around stick around the league as long as he has and become the starting PG on a 54-win team.

    He posted his career high PER last season, and with his starting role in jeopardy, he's obviously worked hard during the off season to improve even more. Based on Nate's conditioning test, Blake is in incredible shape. He also looked great in the Fanfest scrimmage (I know, it's just a scrimmage, but his shot was in mid-season form, he played agressive and looked damn good out there).

    I guess that's just one way of saying don 't sell Steve Blake short. People have been underestimating him his whole career and he just keeps proving them wrong.

    I do think Andre Miller will end up being our starting PG, and playing more minutes than Blake, but I expect Blake to be extremely productive in the minutes he plays - quite possibly THE best back-up PG in the league. I also expect Joel to be THE best back-up center in the league this season.

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