Exactly. Nate- you've gone crazy. That's like adding Miller to the Lakers so that he can help Bynum but getting rid of Kobe. Stupid. Maybe the Cavs should get Tony Parker and then let LeBron go to the Knicks.
Oden played the Kings last night. He had better nights statistically last year with Blake at the PG. At least this board doesn't overreact to a few preseason games. Get rid of Roy!! Wow.
TONIGHT THUS FAR: Roy 5 assts, 1 turnover Miller 3 assts, 3 turnovers Nate- why are you pitting these guys against each other? Roy is and always has been a team guy. He'll make it work. So will Andre.
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I didn't really read Nate's OP that way at all, I see this as a purely hypothetical situation, since Miller and Roy will likely find a way to work together. The real issue here isn't Miller vs. Roy it's more about a guard oriented offense or a bigs oriented offense -- the difference between a team that makes it's living off of jumpers and 3s or dominating the post. It all remains to be seen if Oden can sustain the performance he's shown in two pre-season games against the Kings. Personally I'm rooting for a team that dominates all phases of the game with both stellar guard play, sharp shooting and the ability to play back to the basket.
A hypothetical situation where the Blazers' franchise player is rendered expendable after 1.5 exhibition games against a 17 win Sacto team? I just see a dumb thread.
Miller= 10 years in league and hasn't won a round in the playoffs. He's had lots of time to get it done and hasn't. No matter, let's get rid of 4th year Roy (top 10 player in the league) and hand the team over to Miller whose career will end right about the time Roy hits his prime. So stupid. Big picture? LMAO!!!!
As I have said before, I think each of them is most effective when he is controlling the ball. However i think there is no problem with them working together. I think the solution is for Miller to play about 20 minutes with the second team and 10 minutes with Roy and the first team. Roy can still dominate at the ends of games but if he gets doubleteamed he's still got Miller there to make something happen.
Hey, it's just my opinion. If some of you guys want to take personal shots at me, that's fine. I think Oden is more important than Roy in the greater scheme of things, and I think this team needs a point guard who is capable of getting Oden the fucking ball. Steve Blake failed at that task regularly last season. In fact, the only guard who demonstrated ANY ability to feed the post last year was Rudy. Not Roy. Not Steve. Not Sergio. Oden needs touches to be effective. He isn't going to bring the ball up the floor, so he needs someone to feed him in the post, when he has good position. How many times did we see Oden flash through the middle last season without receiving a decent, well-timed pass? I specifically said I'm not trying to villify Roy. I'm not saying I don't want Roy on the team. I'm saying that I prioritize Oden over Roy for the overall success of this team. If you don't agree with that, that's your opinion. Thanks for once again bringing up my press pass Papa. You love to play the victim on this board, and then you go and bash my opinion and question my credentials. That's real big of you.
I think Roy is more important, and a tri-fecta of those three growing and playing together will get us a ring. my opinion tho. I dont really care about the PG, other than that they can shoot, drive and score when we need the pressure off Roy.
Gonna say that Roy is more important to this team. Hypothetically, with Oden as our main guy, who gets the ball in crunch time? Do you go into the post with the game on the line to LMA or Oden? I always hate when people say oh, it's a guard's league, or a big man's league or whatever, but the easiest way to advance in the league is finding a guy like Brandon Roy to lead your team. I know people like to say wings are a dime a dozen, and big men are hard to find, but guards like Brandon Roy are extremely hard to find. I see two in the league, in Kobe and Wade. You win with players like that running your team. It's up to Nate to work out a game plan to get the most out of our star player, and ensure it is a winning game plan. If he can't do that, you find a coach who can, not get rid of the player. I truly believe he can, not meaning that as a negative on Nate.
For the most part I agree with Roy being important to the team, and that we work our offense around him. But in reality he's only entering his 4th year in the league and first with a real-life offensive threat at C and an average-level NBA PG. Who's to say that he doesn't have some molding left in his game. Wasn't MJ in something like his 6th or 7th season when he perfected the fadeaway J and became ridiculous? Didn't K*be work more on his post-up and jumper game well into his 20's? I don't know much about the older school scorers like Gervin, but I'm pretty sure they didn't peak out at 24/25. I think there're still a large number of things Roy can learn, and he's going to get his eyes opened the first few months of the season with just how open he's going to be.
I hear what you're saying, but I would point to Shaq, Duncan, David Robinson, and Hakeem as perfect examples of big men who led their teams to championships. Sure, you also need that perimeter player like Kobe, or Wade, but it's the big man that really sets your team apart from the rest of the bunch. If Oden is a potential HOF center, he moves to the forefront of team priorities in my mind. Also, I think we are EXTREMELY luck to have Aldridge as well. I hope to see him continue to improve, and re-sign soon.
